Zelenskyy: Ukraine is kept (by the West) in artificial deficits of weapons

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  1. Robert84

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    This weekend, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has delivered a remarkable speech at the Munich Security Conference; see the full text of the speech on the official website of the President of Ukraine.

    First of all, Zelenskyy instructed the conference participants in detail what they must do. In my opinion, Zelenskyy was speaking to them like a boss who speaks to his subordinates.

    During his speech, Zelenskyy fourteen times used words which mean necessity, e.g. “must”, “should”, “have to”, “need to”.

    Zelenskyy also many times used imperative sentences (see below):

    And delivery of Western weapons to Ukraine was evaluated ty Zelenskyy in the following way:

    Zelenskyy once again repeated in his speech his allegations that

    Last year, I published an article about this matter; see the thread The UN has not confirmed “deportation” of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia.

    In May 2023, Zelenskyy alleged that

    But in June 2023, the UN Secretary-General António Guterres said the following:

    And you can decide by yourself who should be believed – Mr Zelenskyy or the UN Secretary-General.

    Source
     
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    Zelenskyy: Ukraine is kept (by the West) in artificial deficits of weapons

    Not exactly artificial. Probably time to turn off the spigot.
     
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    Not exactly a remarkable speech either.
     
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    True, the West has been a day late and dollar short on everything Ukraine has asked for.

    Also true, Ukraine owes its ability to keep fighting effectively on those supplies.

    Also true, there’s zero reason not to keep supplying them against the Russian fascist wannabe conquerors.
     
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    Trumpers love Putin because he hates gays. That’s why they don’t want to support Ukraine.
     
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    No doubt the left wants to believe that lmao. Astounding how wrong yall can be.
     
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    I'm sorry, I missed the memo where that's our problem. See, I don't speak Ukrainian or Russian, I speak English. I want my government to spend on my country and our collective national issues.
     
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    Opposing Russian aggression is in America’s interest.

    Unless you believe in complete isolationism. In which case the American military can immediately be cut by 80% and the budget improved overnight.
     
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    Or we can just stop trying to solve the world's problems until we solve ours
     
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    Sadly this would be the case for many.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    International law& order is an international issue, including yours. Particularly in relation to Russia.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    The funny thing is many Americans always were isolationist, are isolationist and always will be isolationist. They really have not much idea of what lies outside their county, city, state, let alone the rest of the world. I'm basing this on having worked extensively in a county that voted 77% Trump. They are actually nice people - but so insular.
     
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    Zelensky is just another leader padding his wealth with so-called aid money being sent by the United States. He is barely a better man than Putin.
     
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    You forgot to throw the race card in there while you're at it.....lame
     
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    Now there's a revolutionary thought. Such a concept is pure blasphemy to a progressive
     
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    Good point. Blacks suffer from a lot of casual racism in Russia.
     
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    Sounds like very black and white thinking. But actually you're not completely wrong.
     
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    It's not at all
     
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    Much like Australia, they have precious few of them
     
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    Oh don't worry, we're getting a few in. You hear about it on the news :-?
     
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    Well, the question is not so much what you want, but what the other side wants. What will you do if the other side keeps insisting that you have to speak Russian?
     
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    That exactly some idiot American said in 1939. I don’t speak German, I don’t speak France, I don’t even know where Europe is. why should we send our sons and daughter to fight in Europe. Nothing changed, those 1939 isolationist replaced with 2024 isolationist.

    You don’t speak Ukrainian so it is ok human who speak Ukrainian get slaughtered ? How about some f*** humanity. Or is that too much to ask.
     
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    Yes, there are isolationist Americans. We had them in 1914, we had them in 1939 and we have them today. But I assure you , there are more of us, who are not isolationist. America will be there for the world just like America was there in 1914 , 1940 and other regions such as Bosnia, Somalia, Kuwait.
     
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    Ukraine is neither a US State or a protectorate, hell due to the war it's not a part of the 'precious' NATO alliance. It's not 'isolationism', the US hasn't had a single foreign policy win in over 60 years. WW2 became the Cold War, which transitioned into the War on Terror and just when you finally thought we got things under control, Europe again.

    Like the Left says about Trump: So much winning!
     
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    I thought that's what the UN was for, are we admitting the UN is de-facto useless?
     
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