Hunter Biden’s point-by-point rebuttal of allegations against his father

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The documents corroborate Hunter Biden's point by point accusations against him and his father (on the allegations of money laundering and influence peddling).

    EVERYTHING that certain individuals on this forum have been alleging has an innocent explaining, when CONTEXT, context that has been ignored these guys, and the Comer Crew, is examined.

    If justice, fairness, and the truth means anything please read this article, it nicely organizes the court transcript.

    Now, Weiss investigated Hunter for six years. he finally indicted for taxes and a gun charge.

    Both of these charges could have been made a long time ago. Why did he wait so long? the only reason I can surmise is that he was hoping for some 'money laundering' and 'influence peddling' but that would have landed him the big fish, a criminal referral on Joe Biden.

    But alas, he found nothing along these lines, so, after 6 years, what does he have to show for his living on the taxpayer dime? tax charges and a gun charge he could have issued at least 3 years ago, while under the Trump admin. Clearly, these charges are a consolation, which would not ahve been charged if the person's name wasn't Hunter Biden?

    Sweetheart deal? No, because being investigated by a Special Counsel for six years and being charged with something that few people are charged for, is nto a 'sweetheart deal'.

    Millions of people file taxes late, and pay them late, and are not charged.
    Over a hundred thousand people per year are caught lying on the gun background check application, and of those, maybe some 4k are charged.

    Unless, of course, your name is Hunter Biden.

    Hunter will come out on top, and he is doing that now, and Republicans will have egg on their faces, and made to look like the fishing expeditionists they are,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/01/hunter-biden-business-rebuttal/

    In each case, he offered credible responses. [...]

    What emerges when reading the transcript of the interview is how dependent the Republican effort is on three tactics. You’ll see those play out in the rebuttals Hunter Biden offered, but it’s useful to articulate them specifically.


    First and most obvious is that cherry-picking. Republicans have gained access to countless financial and personal documents involving the Bidens and business associates of Hunter Biden and James Biden, the president’s brother. Sifting through that material like amateur internet sleuths, they’ve picked out a dozen or so things that might be framed as suspicious. This is how all investigations work, of course, with a few clues scattered among a lot of distractions. But when the allegations include such things as Joe Biden showing up at a dinner involving his son and a business partner, the frequency of his joining his son for dinner matters.

    This is the second point: Republicans are trying to weaponize the schmoozing that politicians do. The allegations of Joe Biden meeting Hunter Biden’s partners centers on things like shaking hands at a reception or Hunter Biden’s associates being invited to White House events.

    Third, the allegations center on two key conflations. The first and better known is using “the Biden family” as a proxy for “Hunter and James Biden.” Claiming that Hunter Biden’s income was going to “the Biden family” is a way to loop in the president unfairly. The same thing happens with “payments.” At times, the money involved in Hunter Biden’s transactions are for investments, not for his own benefit.

    And on and on it goes. READ IT, PLEASE.

    So, quick summary of Comer's clown car wheels falling off:

    1. One 'whistleblower' (Luft) is a fugitive..
    2. the other (Smirnoff) is indicted.
    3. None of the testimonies have been corroborated to prove the allegations. Often, there are timeline issues with the claims.
    4. Rosemont Seneca Bohai & Rosemont Seneca Thorton are Archer's accounts, so Comer's claim that Yelena Baturina gave $3.5 million to 'Hunter controlled LLCs' is false. They were given to Archer, not Hunter. Fact not revealed in Comer documents. (see page 196 in the transcript).
    5.. Bobulinski, Gillair, and Walker conspired to lure Joe into a biz deal, (see page 123 of the court transcript) shot down by Hunter, who ceased working with them. But these facts are not revealed in Comer documents.
    6. SARs are not prima facie evidence of a crime. In large transactions with foreign entities, they are common.
    7. Money Laundering, an oft heard claim, presumes illegal activity, but none has been proven.
    8. Influence peddling requires Joe giving political favors for benefits. None proven.
    9. There are some 10 legit reasons for an LLC, and they are legal. Allegations of criminal abuse of them must be proven, which none have been proven.
    10. The right tends to frame activity in a negative way. For, example, instead of saying Hunter Biden earned money abroad in a biz venture, made money and shared it with siblings, the right says 'he took money from foreign adversaries and funneled it through 20 LLCs', making it sound like there is wrong doing, but when the rubber hits the road, no crimes are revealed. they have a propensity to spin in order, apparently, to make Joe Biden look bad, for the constant reference on the "Biden Family' hoping that the ascription and negative smearing will rub off on Joe, with all the lies that are being told.

    The motivation for all of this has one objective, to smear Joe Biden and elect Donald Trump.

    That's All you guys on the right got,. when you look at the Comer Pyle's Bile Pile all you see is innuendo and circumstantial evidence, of which NOTHING implicates Joe Biden.
     
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  2. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Good bullet points AND it (the smear) was doomed to failure. At the end of the day, Trump, foreign players and Trumpism are behind this. The "B/S" artists lack the quality of past "B/S" artists and the commonality behind the scenes are foreign entities. Russian disinformation and Chinese disinformation, playing ball with them (a Trump thing) has destroyed one pillar of power, the House. They are working on the next pillar right now, the Senate, right now for the next cycle. ETTD, Putin approved. Putin would love his Agent Orange back into the WH.
     
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  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of useless words to defend the BCF.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    @Patricio Da Silva
    Hunter has every reason to not tell the truth.
    Please tell us what you think the repercussions would be for Hunter to lie to Congress ?
     
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    Unfortunately, the smears work. It worked for them to make Hillary one of the most hated politicians in history. It may work for them for Biden, too, they just have to turn off enough independents to hand the election to Trump.

    In contrast, for some reason Trump can do and say whatever he wants, and he doesn't lose any support. It's astounding. After writing his unhinged Thanksgiving and Christmas messages last year, ANY other candidate would have been done. But, no, he is the frontrunner for the WH. History books will be written about this phenomenon.

    When did Trump ever testify in front of Congress? Oh, wait....

    Didn't you guys call this a perjury trap?
     
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    Sorry but that's STILL on Biden. Biden's policies and war on American citizens have forced people to trump (people that hate him, i know some of them).
     
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    What the perjury trap is about to happen is Hunter and the left getting their "public hearing" and then in front to f the camera's Hunter Biden perjuring himself as the factual documents come out in the "court of public opinion" y'all screamed and hollered about... Facts are facts, and the committee will expose Hunter for the liar he is...
     
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    It will be interesting to see if the Repub campaign to smear Joe, in part by smearing Hunter, withers in favor of something else due to a lack of evidence. Then again, when did a lack of evidence ever stop them?
     
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    So biden has mind control powers, cool.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    @Patricio Da Silva

    You have made no factual argument at all in this thread...

    ""instead of your unhonest copies and pastes, do this, and this will take some work on your part, which you do not seem inclined to do, but it will improve your argument.
    Just take a couple of the items, any of them, one or two, and do the following:
    State your point, your allegation, your argument, then....
    1. Link to the court transcript, cite page numbers and lines.
    2. Explain what law was not broken
    3. Link to or copy and paste the actual code with citations Hunter broke
    4. Explain how the testimony comports to the law that was broken and show how Hunter was lying..
    But, of course, you can't do that. You won't do that.
    I think you are incapable of framing a proper argument.""
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    nice cop out.

    Fail.
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Perjury, a fine.

    Hunter has no reason to lie, and lies can easily revealed via evidence.

    Unfortunately for you, you have no evidence.

    none.

    And let's be clear about what I mean by 'evidence':

    I mean evidence that is conclusive, and not suggestive.

    FACT: Weiss has not charged anyone with money laundering or influence peddling. The ONLY reason he didn't file the tax charges during the 3 years he was under Trump, was that he hoped he could find jucy crimes like money laundering and influence peddling, which he found none, and since he needed something to show to taxpayers funding him for that time, he had the tax and gun charges as a consolation.

    BFD.
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    During the primaries, Trump got above 70% of his party's vote only twice.

    During the primaries, Biden got below 70% only twice.

    Trump will never win a majority, he will never have the hearts and minds of the people.

    Never.

    Why?

    He is an idiot.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He didn't perjure himself. that's nonsense. Getting a fact wrong, doesn't equal lying.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like the brevity. Keep it up.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those steps are designed to provide an argument FOR a crime.

    I'm not alleging any crimes, YOU are.

    Now get to work and quit being lazy.

    FYI, my OP is a solid path of reasoning buttressed by verifiable facts.

    Proof for any claim of fact provided on request.

    If you can refute the OP in any part, feel free to do so, unless, of course, you are lazy.
     
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    Nice extended cop out.

    Fail.
     
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    You say he wasn't offered a sweetheart deal, when the deal was so sweet the judge had to turn it away. Come the **** off it.
     
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    Ahh so Biden has the hearts and minds of people? Good to know
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    ""FACT: Weiss has not charged anyone with money laundering or influence peddling. The ONLY reason he didn't file the tax charges during the 3 years he was under Trump, was that he hoped he could find jucy crimes like money laundering and influence peddling, which he found none, and since he needed something to show to taxpayers funding him for that time, he had the tax and gun charges as a consolation. ""

    Exactly.... that is exactly what corrupt DOJ does that is covering up for the Biden's..... Comer has done their work for them, which they should have done themselves...

    Tell us more about the Weiss plea deal and how and why it "fell apart" ....

    Nancy Mace nailed it...
    The real question you might ask yourself.... why the DOJ has not "got off their asses" and investigate Joe or Hunter?
    But Nancy Mace literally said just that...
    Nancy Mace nails it on the head...
    ""The DOJ needs to get off its ass and investigate... we've done the work for them so they can not screw it up now""
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LmD-BH_Qt0Q
    https://rumble.com/v2n1vsa-rep.-nancy-mace-doj-needs-to-get-off-its-ass-and-investigate.html

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    He is beating Biden in the polls.

    The number of voters in the primaries have been on TV and the number voting for Trump vastly outnumbered those voting for Biden.
     
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    You say Hunter did not, when he did....
    Now get to work and quit being lazy.
    If you can refute my posts, feel free to do so, unless, of course, you are lazy.
    The truth is on my side, not yours..

    What you need to do, @Patricio Da Silva, is STUDY, very closely, the ENTIRE transcript of Archer and Bobulinski , BEFORE you rush to your conclusions... Tony Bobulinski says you are lying...
    Tony Bobulinski says Hunter is lying.... and the fact there are at least two witnesses testimonies that say the same makes Tony correct

    You seem to think anything Hunter says is solid gold and what Tony says is not...

    Tony Bobulinski

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Bobulinski-Transcript.pdf
    "Anyone saying Joe Biden was not involved in Hunter's business is lying"

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    "Hunter said"... that sure put an end to all this.... well...... until he was cross examined and perjured himself....
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2014-Cafe-Milano-Dinner-768x768.png
    https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...dum re Archer Transcribed Interview Final.pdf
    https://bidenreport.com/#p=179

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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Those steps are designed to provide an argument FOR a crime.
    I'm not alleging any crimes, YOU are.
    Now get to work and quit being lazy.
    FYI, my OP is a solid path of reasoning buttressed by verifiable facts.
    Proof for any claim of fact provided on request.
    If you can refute the OP in any part, feel free to do so, unless, of course, you are lazy."


    Then follow your own rules instead of a pile of untruth and expect people to pick through each and every untruth

    Just take a couple of the items, any of them, one or two, and do the following:
    State your point, your allegation, your argument, then....
    1. Link to the court transcript, cite page numbers and lines.
    2. Explain what law was not broken
    3. Link to or copy and paste the actual code with citations Hunter broke
    4. Explain how the testimony comports to the law that was broken and show how Hunter was lying..
    But, of course, you can't do that. You won't do that.
    I think you are incapable of framing a proper argument.""
     
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    Trump is whooping? Election over? When? what was the result?
     
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    Name one private citizen assigned a six year Special Counsel investigation?

    Hmmmm?

    that a private citizen has been specifically assigned his own six year investigation by Special Counsel, is not a 'sweetheart deal'.

    Now, if you can provide evidence for greater crimes than for which he was charged, feel free to do so.

    And name any other private citizen not named Biden, who is not in government, who is not affiliated with a political campaign, officially or unofficially, or executive branch, who was assigned his own Special Counsel?

    I searched, and could not find it. Both Manafort and Stone were affiliated with Trump, whose crimes turned up in the Mueller SC investigation as the result of a broader mandate, who were not specifically assigned an SC.

    Hunter Biden is not affiliated ( as in an agent of ) the executive branch or anyone's political campaign. He is Hunter Biden, private citizen businessman/artist.
     
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