Z Never Had A Broken Nose

You have proven to be so dishonest it doesn't matter what you think. Rose pop has more credibility than you.

 

Lol......are you serious? That is your evidence she embellished? LOL.........I can't even begin to fake taking you serious anymore.....what a freaking joke.

 

By your own logic, it isn't Trayvon either. But since this is a totally different part of the case where there are many contriticting witnesses and testimony to it, as to where Zs nose is broken or it is not and everyone that looked at it from the police, EMTs, and his doctor all said it is probably broken, you are comparing apples and t-bones.

 

Your hypocrisy has been revealed again and the EMTs did not say it looked broken at all. One cop, not the one who arrested him, claimed in his report it looked broken but he is not a doctor, yet you give the cop's opinion weight? Seriously, you people defending Z are largely such a joke it is a waste of time.

I know this is silly to even ask, but do explain how by my own logic it isn't T's voice heard screaming??

 

I'm not really sure what you want... You know there was no X-ray done. Seems the census is that his nose was broken as the doctor said so much... Plus the black eyes... I mean if it quackes like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck...good chance it's a duck.

Just because there was no x-ray done does not mean the defense will not use this information in court. The doctor will testify as to what he saw and believed under oath.

 

You have shown nothing but hypocricy here. Don't try to project your feeling of this case on to everyone else.

2 Police reports describe Zs nose injuries. The key factor is the doctor who said he had a broken nose that is solidified by the police.

Those experts couldn't say it was Trayvon, they only said it wasn't GZ.

 

Show us:

Two police reports saying Z had a broken nose.

EMTs Report saying he had a broken nose.

What hypocrisy have I demonstrated?

You have still dodged the question about the experts saying it was not Z screaming. They don't need to say it was T screaming because common freaking sense is there are only two possibilities.

One more time, do you accept the two experts stating it was not Z screaming?

 

What I want is Z supporters to be honest. At least once. The doctor giving his expert opinion in no way provides objective evidence the nose was broken. Z supporters ignored it when the funeral director said it didn't look like T had been in a fight on the basis T's family was paying him but there is no charge of bias against Z's family doctor.

The EMT's Report challenges the doctor's speculation as well as the pics of Z's face at the police station.

 

Maybe because there wasn't enough time. When the girlfriend claims TM was not on the phone anymore, GZ had already killed him.

 

Well, he is a doctor, so yes, it is evidence and his opinion does matter. I would assume he will be put on the stand and will testify under oath.

Not sure why you are trying to change the topic of the discussion, but I wouldn't rely on the testimony of a funeral director either. His job is to prepare the body and make sure everything with the funeral and the family is in sync. He is not trained in any way in the performamce of an autopsy. Period.

What charge do you want? If was a doctor who gave his opinion, that of which seems to be backed up by the photos (at least what I have seen, and in my opinion as I have broken my nose twice).

I have not seen the EMT report, so I will not remark on this point until I do.

 

Martin could have ran away if he had wanted to, if he really was scared. I am sure he could have ran circles around Zimmerman, considering the differences in weight and build.

 

Thanks again for the link. I found the audio on another site along with audio of what seems to be all the witnesses. I found it here: http://axiomamnesia.com/2012/05/18/...ase-witness-interviews-statements-full-audio/


I had been wanting to hear the girlfriend's actual testimony. Not sure I believe it completely because some things just don't add up. She didn't seem too sure about Trayvon saying "get off", not in my opinion anyway. Taking into consideration she would be biased as any family member or friend would be I don't take her testimony as serious as an eyewitness who isn't a family member or friend. Not to mention she is describing what is going on over a cell phone that had bad reception, it kept losing the signal. Even if I considered her testimony to be the absolute truth and everything was exactly how she heard it her testimony raises questions.

 

No, there was a full minute from the time TM lost Zimmerman until the end of Zimmerman's 911 call. He had time to make it home.

 

It depends on whether or not the doctor has Xrays to back up what he is saying. But on the other hand he is a doctor. I don't see any motive for him to lie. I have known my family doctor for years and I don't think he would lie for me.

 

They say there is a chance it wasn't him screaming. The FBI said they can't tell because the quality of the recording is too poor and the person screaming was in a panicked state. That audio analysis test is considered to be less reliable than a lie detector test. Speaking of which did you know that Zimmerman passed a voice stress test the police use to see if someone is telling the truth?

 

Your time line is wrong. From the time Zimmerman hung up with 911 to when Martin was shot was 80 seconds. Not enough time for the cat and mouse game that you're claiming.

That's not what the witnesses are testifying to. And "John" the Zimmerman witness has changed his story and said not only did he not see Martin bashing Zimmerman's head on concrete, or throwing punches "MMA style", but in fact, it could have been Martin calling for help and that Martin was only pinning Zimmerman to the ground.

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ave-changed-their-stories-zimmerman-case.html

 

Yes, that you can't refute it is noted, seems your world is falling apart on you. And believe me no one takes your snarky comments seriously, just evidence you can't argue the facts.

 

Yes it does and you desperate desire to not believe does not change the fact that he said it was likely broken. You have presented NOTHING to counter that other than your unqualified speculations.

 

She didn't hear anyone screaming for help because the phone was cut off. She heard Martin saying "Get off!" before the phone cut out. No one disputes that.

 

2 minutes and 42 seconds is not enough time?

 

She didn't hear anything. She added that after the fact. Had she heard that it would be in her initial statement as being very valuable information. She said she heard a push and then the phone went dead.

 

No. They did not simply say there was a "chance" it wasn't Z. They both made the definitive statement it was not Z. Being so dishonest does not help defend Z and only hurts your position.

 

You are accusing her of adding it. This is an example your pathetic hypocrisy because you are actually trying to tell us what a witness heard. What was reported by Crump in the media was obviously not everything she said.

 

I'm not offering any speculations on this at all. Why can't you be honest when discussing this? In addition, it is a fact the EMT's report said nothing about a broken nose or even a possible broken nose. You ignore that medical report. wonder why????