Who's for Gun Control?

No, plenty of dead pirates. The US is and has been the world's premiere pirate exterminator. Our US Marines were created to take care of that scurvy. They wore thick leather collars to protect themselves from pirate swords as pirates would typically go for the neck. Hence the nickname (for US Marines) "Leathernecks" HOOOOOAHHHH

 

Not banning guns....limiting access to them. You can not own them if you have any violent crimes, even non felonies on your record. You can not own them if you have a history of anger issues or violent tendencies.

There is also the fact that a good number of people who own guns know nothing about them. So, you can not own them unless you can prove your ability to use them propery, and safely, in a skills tests, the same as driving.

 

I live in a 'stand your ground' state. I do own a gun.

 

Maybe because Americans still realize that having a gun is a hell of lot better than hoping some person with a funny hat is standing outside your door with a club to stop an an intruder with a gun, is a better option than dying and saying well, gun crime still happens, but we are safer without being able to defend ourselves, really.... Euro sheep are still hilarious, keep up the good work!

 

Not true, anyone can own an unregistered 'Saturday night special.'

I am all for training folks how to handle their firearms.

 

In other words - basically what most other countries have done

And those countries have NOT seen a rise in crime (unless of course you buy into the tripe pushed by the NRA)

 

I'd be glad to give up my legal guns when I have some proof that the govt even knows who is in this country, much less, than they know if they have guns.

Until then, consider my property as being "trespassers will be shot" land.... as it should be. Who else but scum would object to that?

 

I would and I do not consider myself scum

"trespassers" so, who would you consider a "trespasser"?

The 16 year old from next door visiting your daughter? The elderly neighbour with dementia who just sat down at your breakfast table and ate your breakfast (has happened)? The two ten year olds skipping school who broke in on a dare?

 

LOL yep... plus Switzerland wasnt founded on genocide and built on the backs of slaves.

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Ruby Ridge was a screw-upon ther part of Bush the Senile. Koresh was a kiddie-fiddler and not anybody who should have been anywhere near firearms, certainly not to have posessed live grenade.

Elian Gonzales was brought to America against Cuban and American law. You got nothing.

John Trochmann and Norman Olson are not fit to lead anything other than a solitary life where they won't be taken seriously.

 

I own several firearms and I believe in the right to own them... I think that overregulation of firearms in this country would result in the same problem's as the ones being experienced in Mexico. With our corporate sponsered "war on drugs" a gun ban that only law-abiding citizens would obey would be disasterous.

 

What countries? You live in England... a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Island with no land borders (of course) while having a standard Philosophy of subservience to the State for centuries. While at the same time you have a Government that has camera littered all across London... You don't see an issue with the State? You live in a Police State.

 

Nah. Not me.

Americans shooting one another?

Divine.

 

In my state, if you possess an unregistered handgun, you pat a 1000 dollar fine. You can serve jail time if you are caught carrying it without a permit in public.

 

Again this American myth that people are either "good" or "bad" - I blame the westerns

People are people and I can assure you that those who are sitting in your jails do not necessarily see themselves as "all bad" neither are there people who are "all good". It is not the gun use or ownership that defines the culture but the culture that defines the gun use and ownership

 

Same here - what is does do is cut down the "so there" homicides. The impulse shootings

You want evidence of that? Look at America's gun murder rate and the ranking in the world then realise the only countries with a higher rate are those in the middle of a civil war
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

 

I dont give two shiats what a person who is in jail for a gun related crime thinks of himself. There is good and bad.. all the bad stuff related to gun crimes usually results from a person taking a predatory stance with the help of a firearm.. same can be done with a car or a bat.. a knife.. a bomb... a dog.. a rock.. a chain.. a spear...a jar full of acid...a sock with 50 dimes in it. Stating that culture defines gun use and ownership is obvious and doesnt support your opnion of no good or bad gun use.

 

But what is the victim more likely to survive? You are confronted with someone moving around your house at 2 am and you shoot them - as opposed to calling police or throwing something at them

Which one are they likely to survive?

 

The U.S is in the middle of a civil war.. Its a war being waged against the public by Corporate America/International. The criminalty of drug possession .. the prison industry... institutionalized racism..Immigration laws enforced for corporate benefit.. the huge and growing chasm between rich and poor...the list goes on and on... there is a war going on here.. the casualties are of no surprise.

 

I can guarantee that most sitting in jail will tell you they are innocent.

 

I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make here. You think that if someone has broken into your house at 2 am you should throw a shoe at him? If he had good intentions towards you and your family he wouldn't be in your house.

Edit: what do you mean victim? If someone's in your house at 2 am you are the victim, so I would imagine you are more likely to survive the encounter if you have a gun.

 

Makes a change from pouring Agent Orange into Vietnam, or phosphorous into Fallujah, or depleted uranium into Iraq.

Go for it.

 

And that is my point - do you know why there are no statistics or rather few statistics available for accidental firearm injury and where they can be found they are often co published with statistics of bike injuries to minimise the impact

Truth is that person in your house at 2 am could be a spouse coming home earlier than they thought, could be a one of your children sneaking out, could be a demented neighbour who is lost (sundowner syndrome very common) or it could be the neighbours 14 year old sneaking in on a dare. If you shoot any of the above - how will you feel about it?

 

It could also be a rapist running in your house with two machetes wearing a suit made from skin of the children he raped and killed. Not everyone who breaks into a house is innocent.

 

I'm for gun control, take them away from most of the ? agencies who have them. Take the tasers away from the too-dumb-for-college cops for sure. As for me, I deserve the right to protect myself and my family by any means necessary.

Gang on gang violence is a positive. Give them more guns and stir up trouble in their world. Effective population control.