Obama = worst president in history?

May have, what else might it have developed into.

Except for the ones in the womb, they are free game, kill 'em if you don't want 'em. I would think you like abortion a lot since it accomplishes that and you fully support women doing it.

 

Either you have real problems with reading comprehension, or you are demonstrating extreme bad faith or stupidity.

Take your pick.

Your "interpretation" of what was said is ridiculous at best!

Now. . .let's see if you understand this placed in another context:

I hate guns. I think only stupid people rely on guns for protection. . .although I do accept that people may enjoy rifles for hunting (although I also hate hunting. . . at least the purpose is not to kill or wound HUMANS).

But. . .if I said that the whole 2nd amendment should be challenged because I don't like it AND because it takes lives. . .what would you say?

I bet you would just tell me that the second amendment is established and that is it! The end of the discussion... the law is the law!

Get real. . .or take some lessons in reading comprehension!

 

Reread my post. KILLED, not murdered. Like a punk you hid behind the word murder so I used a word just as relavant. KILLED. And abortion means KILLED.

And fetuses ARE babies in development. And you bloodthirsty liberals insist we keep on killing babies even after we have killed 50 million of them in the USA and over 1 BILLION worldwide.

USA pregnancies per year

6,000,000.

Births

4,000,000.

Miscarriages

600,000

Stillbirths

30,000.

Killed by abortion

1,370,000.

You must be filled with pride!

 

speaking of that, how come you didn't answer my post from page 42?

al-aulaqi was tried, both here and there

Al-Aulaqi was charged in absentia in Sana'a, Yemen, on November 2 with plotting to kill foreigners and being a member of al-Qaeda. Ali al-Saneaa, the head of the prosecutor's office, announced the charges as part of a trial against another man, Hisham Assem, who had been accused of killing a Frenchman, also saying that al-Aulaqi corresponded with Assem for months, encouraging him to kill foreigners.

On November 6, Yemeni Judge Mohsen Alwan ordered that al-Aulaqi be caught "dead or alive".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specially_Designated_Global_Terrorist

 

baby=/=fetus. and of course the law makes a distinction. if you kill a baby, you go to jail. if you abort a fetus, you don't. that is a very simple distiction.

from your link..........

that is not an abortion, which is legal. that is assault, which lead to the death of the fetus, which is not legal.

 

yea, nothing there contradticts anything I said either. no babies are murdered, fetuses are ABORTED. abortion is not murder. beating a pregnant woman, causing the death of the fetus is murder.

the law is very clear. two different words meaning two very different things.

I'm still at a loss as to what this has to do with obama though?

 

you wishing to now move the goalposts like a punk doesn't have any effect on my argument, or the law.

 

Actually Franklin Peirce is worst than Jimmy Carter. Than obama.

Reasons

1. In the affordable care act. There are 12 middle class taxes increases.

2. Dodd-frank. Put restrains on banks except chase / goldmansach etc.

3. Dodd-frank. Says banks will get penalties for giving out bad loans. But gives no outlet what bad loan is. So middle class families cant get mortgages.

4. Wants to lower death tax ceiling to one million in assets.

5. Doubled nations debt. Which is the biggest threat to national security

6. Bengahzi

7. Didn't sign Canada's pipeline deal which would have created 100000 jobs and lowered gas prices

8. One week after the election obama gave burmir 170 million to create jobs overseas

9. Dropped all charges against Goldman each.

10. Wants an unlimited debt ceiling to keep borrowing from china

11. Made 1.2 million illegals get working papers and if they don't get a job give them unemployment.

12. Supports dream act that will give money for illegals to go to college. Instead of giving our kids money for college.

13. Extended Bush taxes cuts for wealthy

14. Fast and furious

15. Said mitt had no good ideas. But had lunch with mitt to ask him advise on economy. Taxes and job creation

16. Took fed. Drill permits away so gas price roses

17. Said he created 5 million jobs and unemployment. In 2008 was 7.8 and in 2012 is 7.8

18. Bailout gm but not gm sister company Delphi because is was non-union and 18000 jobs were lost

 

Coming back from Vietnam, I was accused of being a BABY KILLER. It was an undeserved slur. Now YOU are fully deserving of the charge of BABY KILLER. You must find that exciting and thrilling. BABY KILLER.

 

OK, back to the topic of the OP.

Is Obama the worst president in history?

Yes, reasons
1. increased the national debt more than all previous presidents
2. divided the country by race, sex, national origin, age, geography, sexual orientation, wealth etc
3. had 1 trillion in deficits every year
4. failed to pass a budget for 4 years
5. lied to the american people
6. "57 states"
7. "corpseman"
8. lied about benghazi
9. set up a female on the benghazi lies
10. is a muslim sympathizer
11. hates capitalism
12, wants to punish the USA for its success
13, filled his cabinet with incompetents
14. spent millions on vacations while the country goes broke
15. gave up the seals after the OBL hit
16. failed to provide requested security to our consulate in Libya
17. supported the takeover of egypt and libya by islamic radicals
18. has offered no solutions except raising taxes
19. has made the USA the joke of the world
20. Lies, lies, lies

 

I have never killed a baby or a pregnant woman. If you did, that's on you.

 

flat out falsehood.

the country has always been divided by race, sex, national origin, age, georgraphy, sexual orientation, wealth etc.

why do you blame obama for the great bush recession?

congress passes budgets. there has been a budget all four years.

every president has lied.

do you really want to compare misquotes?

do you really want to compare misquote?

how?

how?

by killing more terrorists than his predicessor?

by bailing out capitalists?

how?

like most presidents?

like every other president?

huh?

I'll give you that one.

like bush did in iraq?

and spending cuts

to whom?

yes, your entire post is filled with them

 

nice try but you failed again. just a couple of points.

on budgets, the house has passed several budget bills, Reid has not allowed a single one to come to a vote in the senate. The one budget that obama submitted was voted down 99-1 in the senate. A real president would understand the importance of a budget and would have worked to get one passed. We have not had a national budget for over 4 years.

what happened to the economy in the last 4 years is on obama. He made what he inherited much worse in every aspect. Now, he has inherited a mess from himself. Today's economy is his,not Bush's

Obama has not proposed any spending cuts in the latest round of "cliff" negotiations. Instead all he wants is more taxes and more spending. The GOP should let him take us over the cliff.

The divisions within the country have become deeper under obama, but thats part of the socialist 'divide and conquer' strategy. He is following the marx and alinsky playbooks to the letter and you on the left refuse to see what is right before your eyes.

 

you can keep denying gop obstructionism, but it just shows that you don't have a grip on reality

[video=youtube;GkRg66qYSIs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkRg66qYSIs[/video]

 

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Refusing to assist obama in the complete destruction of our economy is not obstructionism. Its called doing the job of congress. When the president is on a course that everyone knows will not work, its the job of congress to put the brakes on and stop it.

They are doing what is right. Going along with obama's marxist agenda would be a terrible mistake. Do you even understand what you are asking for?

Do you understand that under a marxist/collectivist system that all of the money and all of the power would be concentrated in a tiny group of super elites and no one else would have a voice? Is that what you want for the USA?

 

first of all, stop double posting

then get a grip on reality, obama is a multi-millionaire capitalist

 

congress passes budgets, not the president. there has been a federal budget all four years of his presidency.


what happened to the economy in the last 4 years is on obama. He made what he inherited much worse in every aspect. Now, he has inherited a mess from himself. Today's economy is his,not Bush's

of course he has.

define both socialism and marxism and provide specific policy examples making him one.

 

define marxism, then provide specific policy examples making obama one

 

they have passed annual spending resolutions, they have not passed a budget is required by the constitution.

Marx: "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"

Obama: " I want to redistribute the wealth"

 

there has beena budget all four years.

that is neither the definition of marxism, nor specific policy examples.

try again

 

Yeah, you can. He knew his SecDef was running the halls of the Pentagon saying "we want to pin 9/11 on Iraq." And his VP was at the CIA every day shaping the story. Fact of the matter is, the Iraq invasion had been in the works since Bush41 failed to march on Baghdad in 1991. That pissed off the neocons to no end.

 

MORE liberal bullcrap.

obama's budget for FY 2010. Not passed by the Democratic controlled House. Not passed by the Democratically controlled Senate.

b.o.'s budget for FY 2011. Exact same results as FY 2010. NOT passed by either Democratic controlled Congressional body.

b.o.'s budget proposal for FY 2012. NOT passed by the House. Not passed by the Senate.

b.o.'s budget proposal for FY 2013. NOT passed by the House. NOT passed by the Senate.

FY 2010 and 2011. The Democratically controlled Congress never ATTEMPTED TO, nor did pass a budget proposal.

FY 2012 and 2013. The Democratic controlled Senate NEVER attempted to pass a budget proposal. The Republican controlled House DID pass a budget proposal for FY 2012 and FY 2013. The Senate has never brought the House passed proposals to the Senate floor.

The federal government of the United States has been operating on appropriations passed by CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS, for FY. 2010 thru 2013. CR's are NOT budgets. When a department or group of departments runs out of money, a CONTINUING RESOLUTION is passed to keep them operating. A CR is in no way similar to a passed federal budget.

I do not know how many presidents in US history have spent an entire term WITHOUT EVER having a single one of his budget proposals passed by either HIS party or the opposition party. But usama hussein ben barrack does hold that dubious, regrettable, distinction.

THIS IS HISTORIC FACT.

Here is an example for you to LEARN somthing from Wikipedia.

2011 U.S. federal budget
Wikinews has related news: US government shutdown averted in last-minute deal

Beginning in September 2010, Congress passed a series of continuing resolutions to fund the government.


1st Continuing Resolution, funding from October 1, 2010 through December 3, 2010, passed on September 29, 2010. (Pub.L. 111-242)

2nd Continuing Resolution, funding through December 18, 2010, passed on December 2, 2010. (Pub.L. 111-290)

3rd Continuing Resolution, funding through December 21, 2010, passed on December 17, 2010. (Pub.L. 111-317)

4th Continuing Resolution, funding through March 4, 2011, passed on December 21, 2010. (Pub.L. 111-322)

5th Continuing Resolution ("Further Continuing Appropriations Amendments, 2011"), funding through March 18, 2011, passed on March 2, 2011. (Pub.L. 112-4) This resolution cut $4 billion from 2010 spending levels.

6th Continuing Resolution ("Additional Continuing Appropriations Amendments, 2011"), funding through April 8, 2011, passed on March 16, 2011. (Pub.L. 112-6) This resolution cut an additional $6 billion from 2010 spending levels.

7th Continuing Resolution ("Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Amendments, 2011"), funding through April 15, 2011, passed on April 9, 2011. (Pub.L. 112- This continuing resolution followed a deal on the full annual budget which was made with just hours remaining before a government shutdown.[9] It itself contains an additional $2 billion in cuts.[10] Democrats had previously rejected a Republican-backed resolution passed by the House before the deal, which would have funded the government for another week and cut an additional $12 billion from 2010 levels.



These are not budgets, they are emergency stopgap measures to keep the govt in operation. This is NOT the way a competent executive runs a govt or a lemonade stand.

 

you just wasted alot of forum space saying there has been a budget for the past 4 years

 

When the wind blows through your ears, how loud is the echo?

 

speaking of that, how come you didn't answer my post from page 42?


al-aulaqi was tried, both here and there

Al-Aulaqi was charged in absentia in Sana'a, Yemen, on November 2 with plotting to kill foreigners and being a member of al-Qaeda. Ali al-Saneaa, the head of the prosecutor's office, announced the charges as part of a trial against another man, Hisham Assem, who had been accused of killing a Frenchman, also saying that al-Aulaqi corresponded with Assem for months, encouraging him to kill foreigners.

On November 6, Yemeni Judge Mohsen Alwan ordered that al-Aulaqi be caught "dead or alive".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specially_Designated_Global_Terrorist