Why do Americans like guns so much?

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  1. Archer0915

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    That is the problem with some people. Why we cant all just get along with like minded people no matter the race is beyond me.
     
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    Well, be careful, don't "shoot" your whole budget on ammo. :)
     
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    Nice to see you come around to accepting the intent of the second amendment. Because standing armies exist does not nullify the need for the militia, it is the very point of the militias existence... anymore than the establishment of Israel ended the discussion in the middle east.
     
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    It'll just be tit for tat. Bloody? Yes, but these things sometimes happen when extreme elements clash with each other.
     
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    Having allowed yourselves to fall behind in education, status, earning capability, social significance, and a dozen other parameters, the American male finds his guns a last...stone cold...useless in fact...metaphor for all the things he once was. Sad. You once led the Earth in all things...science, business, politics...all of it. Now you cling to guns to prove there is a last scrap of significane in your lives...the ability to kill people and break things...the last refuge of the UN-empowered. Next step, the dung heap. It's our turn, enjoy the guns.
     
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    When fighting an occupying force, you don't need to win as much as you simply need to give them hell long enough. Take for instance any foreign occupation in history. The occupiers always have the bigger toys, but in the end, the locals win. Just takes time. And a government a people no longer want is an occupying force. The only times that force isn't thrown out is when the firearms were taken. America is filled with all the people who left the rest of the world. Those who stayed will do whatever they're told, as far as the industrialized world. You can't compare dynamics. I'm sure the most powerful people on earth would acknowledge this. If America could be ran like the rest, we would already be like the rest. They are attempting to make us one with the world covertly for a reason. You are not smarter than the powers that be.
     
  7. Politics Junky

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    usfan your opinions and mine probably overlap on several topics. The problem is when you are trying to have a mature conversation you have people like Jonelyn that will just keep posting lies even after they are debunked. You can't solve problems when dealing with people like that. And whether the statistic is relevant or irrelevant will not prevent Ms Argue from going on and on lying about it.

    Actually the FBI statistics I posted were only for the US. But I give you credit for at least admitting you didn't know what the statistics show unlike some people who would prefer just to post lies.
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    For a start you are quoting the "Daily Fail"
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    Second - what constitutes violence? Spitting can be a violent act and the UK might be arresting everyone who spits while in other countries they just ignore it when people let fly
     
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    What we are is the last bastion of freedom for ALL you whining winging countries whom are absolutely possessed with our possessions.
    We have the strongest military to ever walk the planet.
    We have the highest level of technology that man has achieved.
    Should a revolution that some are clammoring for, ever more those in Europe cooking up the popcorn to enjoy with the carnage... should that take place... what would rise in OUR stead? Once OUR standards, OUR restraint, OUR constitution are abandoned... what on earth will rise in our place? Should the US become a dictatorship the WORLD will become a dictatorship. It is only due to the bite riddled hand of the United States of America that YOU are FREE to be RULED by whomever you want. Should the US go to EITHER the polarized sides or something else entirely... should America fall into tyranny.... God help you all.

    You do not bear our burden to keep the world from horror... to not BE that horror...

    You think it would be bad if there were a civil war in Pakistan? (*)(*)(*)(*) me. What our guns are, is the absolute last, absolute best defence the world has against global tyranny.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love this forum. You really get to see how jealous other inferior males are.
     
  11. Bowerbird

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    I wish people would give REAL instances in history of this - I mean history of the world not just USA

    India - no guns Gandhi - remember him?

    Philippines and Marcos was in power - people did not use guns then either

    Ukraine - orange revolution

    And on and on
     
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    ????? My whole budget has always been ammo. Who the hell do you think has been keeping this economy afloat????
     
  13. Bowerbird

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    Thanks for the laugh - Yep we Aussies is soooooo jealous! - not!
    If you do not include China

    Once again China - fast overtaking you
    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! That is simply Hollywood dreaming

    Meanwhile back in the real world..........................
     
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    Ok... so you want historical examples... where... your point is supported... not REAL instances...

    Yeah... didn't he get shot?

    Ukraine - Khmelnytsky revolution for independence from Poland, 2 Russian revolutions, and 1 war of independence

    Afghanistan. Ground down the two greatest superpowers to ever exist.

    And on and on...
     
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    Well all your nations are as rigged as ours. No matter what party you vote you will get the same. Where is your "non gun" revolution? What happens when the monopoly of corruption by the shadows turns negative in western societies? What will you do? At least we can fight. We have an option you don't have. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, nothing will change in these nations once the locals take back control. If they didn't have weapons, we would have stayed for good. And their weapons aren't impressive. Western nation's version of freedom and democracy is shaky at best at this point. Especially now that our nation's elite are globalized and care more about each than the nations they represent. Things aren't as bad for you because Americans pay the worlds taxes. Your central banks are propped up and bailed out by ours, whom we, American tax payers, pay for. Your world is policed by us, who only we pay for. With all taxation combined, we pay just as much as anyone, and while you all get 6 weeks vacation a year we work for a decade without one. The dynamics are very different. Americans are extremely pissed. And we have every right to be. You all hate us now when the people in charge over here are the ones who choose you all over their own. The world has no idea how lucky it is. Nationalism will come to America, and you will wish to God you had the globalists back.
     
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    gandhi-was-for-guns-not-control.jpg

    Ahhh, Gandhi
     
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    I didn't say you were. I suggested that you are myopic.

    Including China.

    Again... China is slowly catching up to us. They have no 5g fighters... nevermind. Believe whatever you feel you need to. We would not need to go after China... China is already tyrannical. It is those of you basking in your freedoms under the auspices of my countries protection.


    What do you THINK is going to happen if America descended into civil war?

    Seriously... how does it work in your "real world"? You think your life and your country will be unaffected? We had a burp in our housing market and the worlds economy is on the brink of collapse.

    PLEASE riddle me what you think would occur, if the US did not even become tyrannical... but fell. What do YOU see happening?
     
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    Your first words..."no I cant" prove you have less freedom than me. Ohhh that must have been hard to type. Even in meek lowercase. I love it. As far as everything else you wrote, its gibberish. Trust the freedom of press? what does that have to do with my individual freedoms. I am free to figure out who I trust and who I dont. And did you really just pull out a "bush stole the election" really? not even the most left leaning liberals here dispute it because every level of legality proves he won.
    Lastly, why is it your business what we do in our country? If your country is so great, goodie for you. Im happy for you. Thats why you live there and I live here. I could literally care less how you people want to live your lives its none of my business. Thats the difference between us. You think your way is best because you're smug and smarmy and you try to enforce your will on others who disagree with you. Problem is, in this case you cant do a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing about it except get angry. Thats why you guys are really ticked off. As far as medical care....lol seriously? Dude, people from your country fly over here to Boston hospitals every day to get life saving medical treatment that they cant get over there. I guess you get what you pay for up until you have a life threatening illness or a cavity.
     
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    If Britian is such a free country why is there a police camera on every street?
     
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    http://www.anesi.com/q0055.htm

    Now tell me - how many guns were used to overthrow the British? He managed WITHOUT guns

    - - - Updated - - -

    Hey! Preventing America from descending into a civil war is why I argue for gun "control" Fewer guns less likelihood of civil disruption
     
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    And the proof of that is......................

    Sound of silence
     
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    Have you ever been to Britain? There is not a police camera on every street. Britain is far more lightly policed than the United States. I've been to numerous countries on multiple continents some of them first world some of them third world and as an adult I have never seen a place as heavily policed as the United States. Seriously, you must be kidding? Just drive down the highway in the US. You see big sport utility vehicles with blacked out windows. Traffic stops with four patrol cars with lights flashing and police officers all armed. You don't see stuff like that in other countries.

    Arresting a mother in front of her children for not wearing her seatbelt?! Then making it a Supreme Court case?! Where in the world does stuff like that happen other than the US?

    You should get out more. After being overseas for awhile when I came back the circus over here looked really absurd to me. Americans don't know what freedom is.
     
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    And we were real proud to send English citizens our private arms when the Germans ran roughshot over them, that they had a chance to defend themselves. No thanks is necessary... we did what was right.

    Hitler felt the same way

    It is, again, that civil disruption which is all that stands between a corrupt and overreaching government from descending into tyranny and madness... as history has repeated over and over.
     
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    Sorry but what really slays me is that the SAME people screaming about how free America is want to enact laws to prevent health care professionals from even raising the subject of guns in the privacy of a consulting room

    Yeah right - that is real freedom
     
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    Why should my Doctor inquistion me on firearms? If I have a broken leg I fail to understand how answering questions about firearm ownership will releive the suffering.
    When you go to see a Doctor down under are you frisked and interrogated as if a criminal?
     

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