Go on, I'll ask. What benefits does the US of A get from Israel? Don't claim massive armaments orders because the US gives Israel the money to buy them with. A list, please.
I need to keep the original post in which i always respond. Just check all the joint ventures in the arms division.
'Israel' keeps racism alive to encourage the Republican bigots, and pilots child murder and other illegal killing for militarists of the same stamp. Where would they be without it?
Israel is a great country and the sole country of democracy in the middle east. All of the anti-israel stories are bogus stories mostly made up by anti-semitic neo nazis.
None, Nada, Zilch. Israel causes nothing but problems for us and spends our money doing it. We never had enemies in the ME until Israel became our "friend".
BOGUS and unrelenting defamation... I will let the professional speak...and also issue a contradictory statement to debunk the all too common harassment of Israel on this subject. In many ways, Israel is the giver and the U.S. is the receiver ~By Yoram Ettinger Statements made by and the conduct of Israel's leaders since 1993 create the false impression that Israeli-American ties constitute a one-way relationship. The presumption is that America gives and Israel receives, leading to Israel's inferior position and the alleged compulsion to follow the State Department dictates. However, Former Secretary of State and NATO forces commander Alexander Haig refuted this claim, saying he is pro-Israeli because Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security. On our 57th Independence Day, Israel and the United States enjoy a two-way relationship. Israel is like a start-up company that enjoys the kindness of the American investor, but yields much greater profits than the investment. Every day, Israel relays to the U.S. lessons of battle and counter-terrorism, which reduce American losses in Iraq and Afghanistan, prevent attacks on U.S. soil, upgrade American weapons, and contribute to the U.S. economy. Senator Daniel Inouye recently argued Israeli information regarding Soviet arms saved the U.S. billions of dollars. The contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America is greater than that provided by all NATO countries combined, he said. Meanwhile, the vice president of the company that produces the F16 fighter jets told me Israel is responsible for 600 improvements in the plane's systems, modifications estimated to be worth billions of dollars, which spared dozens of research and development years. Israel's utilization of American arms guarantees our existence, but at the same time gives U.S. military industries a competitive edge compared to European industries, while also boosting American military production, producing American jobs, and improving America's national security. Japan and South Korea, for example, preferred the "Hawkeye" spy plane and the MD-500 chopper, both purchased and upgraded by Israel, over comparable British and French aircraft. Indeed, innovative Israeli technologies have a similar effect on American civilian and agricultural industries, which view Israel as a successful research and development site. As early as 1952, U.S. Army Chief-of-Staff Omar Bradley called for the integration of Israel into the Mediterranean Basin area, in light of the country's location and unique capabilities. In 1967, Israel held back a radical Arab, pro-Soviet offensive, which threatened to bring about the collapse of pro-American Arab regimes and disrupt oil supply, thus severely undermining the American standard of living. In 1970, Israel brought about the withdrawal of Syrian forces from Jordan, at a time when the U.S. was tied up by wars in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, thus preventing the fall of the pro-American Hashemite regime and a possible domino effect that could have reached Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states. The 1976 raid in Uganda that freed Israeli passengers of an Air France flight hijacked by terrorists provided America with a backwind in the war on international terror, while in 1977 Israeli intelligence provided the intelligence information that foiled Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's plan to assassinate Egyptian President Anwar Sadat . Notably, Sadat would later go on to make peace with Israel, paving the way for other agreements between Israel and the Arabs. In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft batteries in Lebanon that were considered immune to American weapons. Israel promptly shared the operation's lessons, estimated to be worth billions of dollars, changing entirely the global balance of power in the process and contributing to the Soviet Union's eventual disintegration. In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor, providing the U.S. with the option of engaging in conventional wars with Iraq in 1991 and 2003 and preventing a possible nuclear war and a terrible price of thousands killed. In 2005, Israel provides America with the world's most extensive experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs. American soldiers train in IDF facilities and Israeli-made drones fly above the "Sunni Triangle" in Iraq, as well as in Afghanistan, providing U.S. Marines with vital intelligence. Without Israel, the U.S. would have been forced to deploy tens of thousands of American troops in the eastern Mediterranean Basin, at a cost of billions of dollars a year. Had Israel been located in the Persian Gulf, the U.S. would have been spared the need to send hundreds of thousands of soldiers to the region, thanks to Israel's deterrence and operational capabilities. Indeed, Congress leaders, Vice President Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld are aware of Israel's unique contribution to U.S. interests. In fact, they all wonder why the post-1993 Israel does not use its impressive contribution as leverage, in sharp contrast to the pre-1993 Israel. ***************************** ***Yoram Ettinger is a consultant on U.S.-Israel relations and Mideast politics, frequently interviewed on Israeli and US media, OpEd writer for Israeli and US dailies and a regular lecturer in both countries.
Ask Joe the Plumber if any of those so-called advantages outweigh the monstrous blow to the US self-esteem and turmoil of faith in it's security brought about by 911. And before any apologist tries to claim that Israel had nothing to do with 911, go back to Bin Laden's video of October 1994 and refresh your memory, because the words of the perpetrator himself will refute that claim utterly. Whuddya say, Joe? And what does your wife say? Good ... thought so.
You should be really ashamed of yourself implicating Israel with a 'Canard'... Israel never met Bin Laden!!! Only his followers from Spain know... they blew something there and also perpetrated an outrage in this country. Mohamed Atta The 33-year-old pilot of the American Airlines plane that crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center was a ringleader of the coordinated hijacking of four planes. Born and raised in Egypt, he moved to Germany in the early '90s and became part of the Islamic extremist "Hamburg Cell" later that decade. He met Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan and was recruited to become part of a plot to receive pilot training and then crash hijacked jets into U.S. targets. He died with 18 other hijackers on Sept. 11 most of them from Saudi Arabia... you sir have some gall!
To the reader as a refresher course...Who perpetrated the 9/11 outrage and murder of civilians??? FBI Announces List of 19 Hijackers http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-announces-list-of-19-hijackers Washington DC Sept ember 14. 2001 The following is a list of the nineteen (19) individuals who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. Information listed for each hijacker differs, but may include date of birth, address provided, or visa status. This is the extent of the information available at this time. The FBI requests that anyone who may have information about these individuals-even though they are presumed to be dead- to immediately contact an FBI field office or call the toll-free hotline at 1-866-483-5137. American Airlines #77 Boeing 757 8:10 am departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles 9:39 am crashed into the Pentagon 1) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired. 2) Majed Moqed - No information available. 3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California. 4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey. 5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot. American Airlines #11 Boeing 767 7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles 8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center 1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates. 2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot. 3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida, and Newton, Massachusetts; Believed to be a pilot. 4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot. 5) Abdulaziz Alomari - Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot. United Airlines #175 Boeing 767 7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles 9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center 1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot. 2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. United Airlines #93 Boeing 757 8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco 10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania 1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot. ALL ARABS 2 X EGYPTIANS AND 17 X SAUDIS
And financed by OPEC price-gouging. Never forget that, or it will be no use to shout, "Never Again." The power of Allah is all oil. Solutions?
THE CIA IS MISSING ITS I You forgot what could have been the greatest benefit if it had not been ignored by the stupid people we put into Intelligence. On February 22, 1973, the Israelis revealed that they had discovered a new terrorist tactic: hijacking an airplane and using it as a bomb against thousands concentrated in a building, replacing the previous tactic of landing somewhere and making demands for the release of the passengers. They revealed this as an explanation of why they shot down a Libyan airliner that had strayed over their territory. The self-hating Jews at the New York Times were outraged, accusing the proud Israelis of acting like trigger-happy cowboys. But there was some benefit to the US because of the fact that the jihadists were discouraged from using the tactic for the next 27 years.
You're missing a significant point that could be used against the Truthies. Atta had a PhD in architecture and knew that the World Trade Center was poorly constructed and was one of the few buildings in America that would collapse if hit by an airliner.
You mean he was just pushing his point through one of the towers hmmmmmmm, or perhaps he was overcome with Muslim religious ZEAL?? Which is which? Religion was by all means the thing that turned him into a terrorist and in the process make him lose his life.
Betrayal by Greedheads is all over this attack. There'd be no jihad if we had confiscated Arab oil, like Nixon wanted to do before being talked out of it. The American oil companies piggyback off OPEC price-gouging, enabling terrorism. The airlines, in order to save money and increase their profits, were too cheap to pay for cockpit protection. The World Trade Center was constructed so that the owners could have more office space to sell.
coming from a Geo-Political standpoint, Israel lends much to the cause of empire and tracking the movements of national leaders of the Near East. Israel also performs tasks from the U.S> government, not people that enable destabilization to continually be the rue of affairs the area of the Trans-Jordan, including Egypt and now Libya. coming for the standpoint of national interest of the People of the United States, Israel counts for absolutely nothing; it is more trouble than it is worth. I hope that covers your question until someone else has more or something better to add. - - - Updated - - - You just about covered everything.
not bad to read this site: "The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion" http://rense.com/general41/trill.htm
Yes, the real point of whom you are covering up for when you blame the Jews. The predominantly Gentile ruling class benefits from all these movements. If people weren't dumbed down by an education that makes them see things superficially, they would realize that the real focus of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to attack democracy. The aristocrats couldn't openly admit that their point was that they were superior because they were born rich and everybody else should love to be their slaves, so they connected any democratic movements to the Jews, hoping the people would say, "I couldn't make up my mind whether standing up for our rights is right or wrong, but when I found out that the Jews are behind it, I knew then that it must be wrong to go against the will of the rich." Let's go down the list: Wars (which preppy Chickenhawk traitors have their Daddies get them out of) to make money for rich investors. Anti-Racism: to provide willing cheap labor and break up the unions by integrating incompatible races. Lincoln was a typical Republican. Feminism: so that rich girls can inherit their Daddies' position, doubling the amount of hereditary power. Also, to emasculate working class men, making them weaklings who will also submit to corporate domination. Marxism: appealing only to the children of the rich and their flunkie academics. Some of the Heirheads feared that the workers would inevitably take over, so they decided to fake being on their side in order to take over revolutionary movements for themselves. Affirmative Action: to humiliate talented people, setting them up to become meek Cash Cows for the Corporations. You can include athletic "scholarships" in that. Dumb jock bullies have no more right to be in college than affirmative-action dummies. Don't forget the Affirmative Action in legacy college admissions. Economic Decadence: allowing class supremacy makes that as inevitable as what would happen if pro athletes got to pass on their positions to their sons, or if the winners of the NBA finals were awarded with the #1 Draft Pick. Rule by birth rather than worth can only lead to death. Gay Agenda: an upper-class fad caused by absentee greedhead and mean fathers turning their sons off machoism or brown-nosing corporate successes setting sissy male role models. If his Mommy is a trophy wife walking all over his Daddy, a preppy will want to become a girl. Domination is also involved, just like in prison, coming from a sense of class privilege. White Guilt: Limousine Liberals don't feel guilty; they want to make the unprivileged Whites feel guilty. The rich are brought up to hate and fear all other White people. If working-class Whites don't feel proud of their race, they'll never feel proud of their class. I know Archie Bunker was created by Jews, but they were only following orders from the WASP supremacists. All in the Family never would have been produced if it didn't fit in with the designs of Class Supremacy. Corrupting and Addictive Entertainment: the ancient ruling class tactic of "bread and circuses." Also, opiation of the masses is the reason behind superior athletes getting rewarded, from childhood on, the way superior students should be.
Pretty much hit it right on. Although the blatant censorship on this particular thread is a little friggin silly. My posts weren't flame bait at all, they just happened to irritate somebody with power to do something about it. The mod could have tried to argue against them and refute them, but I guess ripping my posts down is easier.
Zero. Zilch. Nada. That is, unless you like to pay taxes in order to enrich the neoKKKons and military industrial complex.
Your attitude is going to become more common Indofred! When somebody views the future....or a future....it is said that the future is altered! That would fit quite well with some intriguing psychological studies as well as some aspects of String and Wave Theory especially as elaborated on by Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman....but anyway.....A Pastor Shane Warren somehow had a vision of several nations conspiring to devalue the USA dollar. A Pastor David Herzog foresaw Israel blamed....and Jewish American blamed during the economic downturn. During that time American Jews had to flee to Canada and then on to Israel. I am of the belief that one of the biggest reasons as to why the USA economy has boomed since 1776 is because of how Jewish Americans were treated better than in just about any other nation! http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=11623&security=1041&news_iv_ctrl=1546
When a being/beings composed of fundamental energy make a promise, or should I say write out a concept for a series of reality films.....they can certain ensure that the basic film concept is used during production! Gen 12:2,3 http://www.carbonbias.blogspot.ca/ Dogmatic Atheists Lack Mathematical Aptitude.
I second this with all my heart and soul... Here a Phd describes the operating room of the future... The operating room of the future developed in Israel will change the way complex procedures will be done without making incisions. The operating room of the future is well into development stage. Truly amazing technology. Enjoy watching. http://youtu.be/IfJemqkby_0
First of all - Soda Stream, which is actually manufactured by the Arabs called Palestinians... Plus - List of Israeli Inventions and Discoveries: Science [edit]Chemistry Model of quasicrystals, discovered by Nobel prize winner Dan Shechtman of theTechnion Discovery of Quasicrystals by Dan Shechtman of the Technion.[SUP][1][/SUP] The discovery led him to receive the Nobel Prize in Chemistry Discovery of the role of protein Ubiquitin by Avram Hershko and Aaron Ciechanover of theTechnion Institute (together with the American biologist Irwin Rose). The discovery led them to receive the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] [edit]Physics Eshkol-Wachman Movement Notation Prediction of Quarks by Yuval Ne'eman of Tel Aviv University (together with the American physicist Murray Gell-Mann).[SUP][4][/SUP] Discovery of the AharonovBohm effect by Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm.[SUP][5][/SUP] Formulation of Black holes Entropy by Jacob Bekenstein of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] [edit]Optics World's smallest video camera - a camera with a 0.99 mm diameter, designed to fit in a tiny endoscope designed by Medigus.[SUP][8][/SUP] Development of the "Pillcam" by Given Imaging, the first Capsule endoscopy solution to record images of the digestive tract. The capsule is the size and shape of a pill and contains a tiny camera.[SUP][9][/SUP] [edit]Medicine Pillcam endoscopic capsule developed by Given Imaging Eshkol-Wachman Movement Notation - a notation system for recording movement on paper that has been used in many fields, including dance, physical therapy, animal behavior and early diagnosis of autism.[SUP][10][/SUP] Development of the Copaxone immunomodulator drug for treating multiple sclerosis. It was developed in the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel by Michael Sela, Ruth Arnon and Deborah Teitelbaum.[SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP] Development of the Interferon proteins by Michel Revel from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel.[SUP][13][/SUP] Development of taliglucerase alfa (Elelyso), a recombinant glucocerebrosidase enzyme produced from transgenic carrot cell cultures.[SUP][14][/SUP] Taliglucerase alfa won approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in May 2012 as an orphan drug for the treatment of Type 1Gaucher's disease.[SUP][15][/SUP] [edit]Economics Work of Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem explaining irrational human economic choices.[SUP][16][/SUP] Developments in Game theory. Israel Aumann of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem received the Nobel Prize in Economics for his work in this field.[SUP][17][/SUP] The Rubinstein bargaining model, one of the most influential findings in game theory, refers to a class of bargaining games that feature alternating offers through an infinite time horizon. The proof is from Ariel Rubinstein 1982.[SUP][18][/SUP] [edit]Biotechnology Nanowire - a conductive wire made of a string of tiny particles of silver, a thousand times thinner than a human hair. developed by Uri Sivan, Erez Braun and Yoav Eichen from the Technion.[SUP][19][/SUP] World's smallest DNA computing machine system - "the smallest biological computing device" ever constructed, according toGuinness Book of Records, which is composed of enzymes and DNA molecules capable of performing simple mathematical calculations and which uses its input DNA molecule as its sole source of energy it was developed in 2003 in the Weizmann Institute of Science by professor Ehud Shapiro and his team.[SUP][20][/SUP][SUP][21][/SUP] [edit]Theoretical computer science Michael O. Rabin introduced the concept of nondeterministic finite automatons.[SUP][22][/SUP] Amir Pnueli introduced temporal logic into computing science. [edit]Computer hardware USB flash drive, originally marketed as the DiskOnKey USB flash drive - a flash memory data storage device integrated with a USB interface. The Israeli company M-Systems (in partnership with IBM) developed and manufactured the first USB flash drives available in North America.[SUP][44][/SUP] This claim is challenged by multiple companies in Singapore (Trek Technology, Malaysia and China (Netac Technology).[SUP][45][/SUP] Quicktionary Electronic dictionary a tiny pen-sized scanner which is able to scan words or phrases and immediately translate them into other languages, or keep them in memory in order to transfer them to the PC. Developed by the Israeli company Wizcom Technologies Ltd.[SUP][46][/SUP] Laser Keyboard - virtual keyboard is projected onto a wall or table top and allows to type handheld computers and cell phones. Developed simultaneously by the Israeli company Lumio and Silicon Valley startup company Canesta .[SUP][47][/SUP][SUP][48][/SUP][SUP][49][/SUP][SUP][50][/SUP] The company subsequently licensed the technology to Celluon of Korea.[SUP][51][/SUP] [edit]Computer software Adi Shamir co-inventor of Differential cryptanalysis. Algorithms include Shamir's Secret Sharing. LempelZivWelch algorithm - a universal lossless data compression algorithm created by Abraham Lempel and Jacob Ziv of the Technion institute together with the American Information theorist Terry Welch.[SUP][52][/SUP] Babylon - a single-click computer translation, dictionary and information source utility program developed by Amnon Ovadia.[SUP][53][/SUP] ICQ - an Instant Messaging software developed initially in 1996 by the Israeli company and adopted by AOL. Mirabilis.[SUP][54][/SUP] [edit]Agriculture Refinement of existing Drip Irrigation Systems by introducing a non-clogging plastic emitter. Drip-irrigation (also called micro-irrigation), was invented by Australian scientist Hannis Thill.[SUP][55][/SUP] Refinement of this idea (involving a plastic emitter) was furthered in Israel by Simcha Blass and his son Yeshayahu.[SUP][56][/SUP] The Tomaccio tomato was developed by Hishtil Nurseries of Israel.[SUP][57][/SUP] Drip irrigation at an Israeli nursery The Tomaccio tomato was developed by Hishtil Nurseries of Israel. [edit]Energy Rooftop solar hot-water system Super iron battery - A new class of a rechargeable electric battery based on a special kind of iron. More environment friendly because the super-iron eventually rusts. It was developed byStuart Licht[SUP][58][/SUP] of the University of Massachusetts.[SUP][59][/SUP] Energy tower - Purely theoretical alternative electricity generation and water desalination technology in low cost. The Energy towers spray water on hot air at the top of the tower, making the cooled air fall through the tower and drive a turbine at the tower's bottom. The brainchild of the American physicist Phillip Carlson which was expanded by Professor Dan Zaslavsky and Rami Guetta from the Technion.[SUP][60][/SUP][SUP][61][/SUP] A unique technology for producing hydrogen in vehicles as an alternative fuel source. It is produced by the Israeli company Engineuity and was invented by Amnon Yogev and Eli Gmaazaon.[SUP][62][/SUP] Improvement of previously existing flat plate solar water heaters - A home facility which converts solar energy to thermal energy. Following the energy crisis in the 1970s, The Israeli law requires the installation of solar water heaters in all new homes. It was developed by Zvi Tavor.[SUP][63][/SUP] [edit]Consumer goods and appliances Epilator Epilator (originally "Epilady") - an electrical device used to remove hair by mechanically grasping multiple hairs simultaneously and pulling them out. It was developed and originally manufactured at Kibbutz HaGoshrim.[SUP][64][/SUP][SUP][65][/SUP] Wonder Pot - a pot developed for baking on the stovetop rather than in an oven.[SUP][66][/SUP] Micronized coating instant hot water pipes developed by A.C.T.[SUP][67][/SUP] Artificial gills - a theoretical special diving system that is not yet in production, currently being developed by the Israeli company Like-A-Fish Technologies which produces oxygen from water making oxygen tanks unnecessary.[SUP][68][/SUP] [edit]Games Rummikub Rummikub - a tile-based game for two to four players invented in Israel by Ephraim Hertzano.[SUP][69][/SUP][SUP][70][/SUP] Hidato - a logic puzzle game invented by the Israeli mathematician Gyora Benedek.[SUP][71][/SUP] Taki - an Israeli card game invented by Haim Shafir.[SUP][72][/SUP][SUP][73][/SUP] [