Actually "unborn" is what we who use the English language call an adjective. It does not change the meaning, it clarifies it and adds detail. Child, in its actual definition, says nothing whatsoever about being born, so you are once again trying to redefine a word to make your errant opinion make sense, yet it still doesn't.
Gosh you don't say .. pray do tell where I say it isn't .. an adjective is also a qualifier for the word that follows and as you have stated before when trying to use the word baby, it is the common usage that applies .. in this case the common usage of child has nothing to do with pre-born, unless it has the qualifier unborn. Child is very obvious (well to vast majority of educated people) in its meaning and it applies to born people, not to the unborn. You can try to twist this as much as you like in order to support your erroneous assumptions, but to any person with a decent education they will see what you are doing for what it is, blatant fallacies.
And a blond child is just a non descript one with regard to hair color if not for the adjective. I assure you I am far more educated than you are, and the definition of child states nothing that requires all children to be "born".
Yet more arrogance, you have no idea of my education and yet you assume you are better educated. No matter how you spin it the only people who would refer to an unborn as 'child' or 'baby' is the woman expecting one (purely an emotional attachment) and pro-lifers seeking to project an emotional image onto others in order to give the impression that abortion involves cute little cuddly babies, and as far as I am concerned, in the context of debating this subject, it is at best misleading and at worst a pure lie.
Well you have a pre-conceived notion that unborn children are not unborn children, and apparently no amount of logic or reasoning can shake your errant opinion in this regard. I don't have any idea of your education level other than the quality of your arguments, which suggests lesser education than I have acquired. That is all I am saying. Emotion isn't neccessary to debunk your position, only logic and reason are needed.
So please show me where I have ever said unborn children are not unborn children, I have said the pro-life usage of the words baby, child and children when referring to fetuses is incorrect and as yet you haven't proven a damn thing to show I am wrong .. now if you want to start using the correct terms or even add a qualifier to them, such as preborn, or unborn, then perhaps you may actually show some of this superior education you claim to have had, otherwise your continued usage of them only shows the depths pro-lifers will go to.
and around and around you go. Child and baby are synonymous enough, but as I have repeatedly told you, "baby" is not strictly defined term. So its use is not inherently wrong.
I'll leave you with the following definitions from medical dictionaries; embryo - in humans, the developing organism from fertilization to the end of the eighth week fetus - In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth baby - in humans, an infant or young child, especially one who is not yet able to walk or talk.
So you think your made up definitions with no supporting links to recognized sources mean something? The very first definition that pops up using Bing: "Definition of baby (n) bing.com · Bing Dictionary ba·by [ báybee ] 1.very young child: a very young child who is not yet able to walk or talk 2.unborn child: a child who is still in the womb3.childish person: somebody regarded as childish or overly dependent" See also: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/baby "a. A very young child; an infant. b. An unborn child; a fetus...." "Baby" is not a medical term, and abortion is not a medical procedure. Abortion is a hit put out on a defenseless child in utero. Medical procedures are to heal or save a life, not an operation whose sole purpose is to kill one.
embryo - http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=28538 fetus - http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=32556 baby - http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=9072 so sorry to rain on your parade.
You missed the part where you are barking up the wrong tree. "Baby" is not a medical term, and abortion is not a medical procedure.
funny that as baby appears in medical dictionaries, as does abortion .. but I did forget that if something doesn't match your opinion then it isn't relevant Abortion - http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=143 .
I didn't say it doesn't show up in their dictionaries, I said it isn't a medical term, which it obviously is not. - - - Updated - - - I didn't say it doesn't show up in their dictionaries, I said it isn't a medical term, which it obviously is not. - - - Updated - - - I didn't say it doesn't show up in their dictionaries, I said it isn't a medical term, which it obviously is not.
So even though it is in a medical dictionary and describes a medical procedure it isn't a medical term!!! , in fact if you want to be ultra precise there are two types of abortion - medical and surgical So not only is it a medical term, it is also a surgical term depending on the gestation period of the fetus. Abortion is also not just an induced method it is also the correct term for a spontaneous miscarriage .. but of course you won't accept the actual medical evidence as it doesn't suit your false premise.
That would be correct! It is not a medical term. Hysterectomy is a medical term, it means only one thing and it is purley medical. A baby is a medical procedure? Wow you can be really weird. "Baby"on the other hand can mean someone's pet project at work, someone's car, someone's child, someone's boyfriend or girlfriend, etc..... A medical term would be a term related to saving a life or treating an illness, not snuffing out a human life. Is "execution" a medical term? That is what an abortion is. It is just like lethal injection for a convicted murderer, only the person being killed has done nothing wrong. But I don't expect you to understand this.
You know very well that I was referring to abortion, I realise the need you have to make yourself feel superior but this is just childish. It is also a medical term which you claim here that it is not, you seem to be having difficulty in separating a medical term from a medical procedure. Baby is a medical term, just as fetus is .. where as abortion is a medical procedure, just as a Hysterectomy is, and of course abortion and Hysterectomy are also medical terms where as baby is only a medical term. See here again you are confusing a medical term with a medical procedure, and it is only your opinion that abortion is an execution so its really of little relevance to the discussion and pure hyperbole.
"baby" is not a medical term. You can sqwawk all you want trying to claim it is, but we all know it isn't.
In what context? When speaking of their sports cars? Their work projects? Their wives or husbands? When speaking of very young human beings, they tend to use: zygote, embryo, fetus, newborn, infant, toddler, etc..... There are probably others as well.
you would be incorrect AGAIN! Wow don't you ever get tired of being completely wrong? But I noticed that Fetus is conspicuously missing from your post, so at least you acknowledge that fetuses are! So abortion is the killing of a baby by your own admission. Whew, it is difficult to get through to you but we are making progress here.
The fetus is the same entity throughout that stage, so if he/she is ever a human being, he/she is always a human being. So is a human fetus always a human being?
No doctor while standing over a woman about to give birth....would say..now we are going to deliver your fetus. And our courts even call it a baby. The pro-abortion position calls it? A liability, nuisance.....leech.
