BILL MAHER: Comparing Islam to Christianity regarding violence is liberal bull.....

In 1941, FDR declared an oil embargo against Japan, which they used as a legitimate reason to attack us. If a country is weakened economically by its enemies, it is the same as war. Violence isn't the only method of waging war, but the other methods should be responded to with violence. After all, the British weren't killing Americans before the Revolutionary War. Does that mean we had no cause to declare our independence?

American cowardice was first proved to our jihadist enemies by our lack of retaliation for the embargo. But because American oil companies benefited off the price-gouging, the ruling class suppressed any talk of fighting back based on the economic attack. If the Muslims wrecked our commercial Internet and brought the economy down that way, would you ignore that attack too, and say we should do business without modern information technology and claim that any retaliation is just to benefit Microsoft? You yourself are falling for the control that George Carlin warned you against. Too bad he wasn't insightful enough to see that the biggest liars might be the ones pretending to be on his side. He himself probably would have opposed retaliation based on the false idea that it would help Big Oil, just as many people were suckered into believing that the two wars against Saddam Hussein were to get cheap oil. People believe that even though oil was at its lowest price when patriotic Presidents like Reagan and Clinton let Saddam violate his OPEC quotas.

 

No, it isn't, not at all. Does a country have to trade with another country?

Wow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre

Yes, I'm sure that you'd love it if we went to war with twelve countries over a damn embargo.

 

We only have to seize the Saudi oilfields and OPEC will lose the ability to set prices. Besides, the rest of OPEC will be partitioned among a coalition of industrialized countries: China, Russia, France, Brazil, etc. The OPECker armies are pathetic and they probably will surrender almost immediately.

And again, because you dishonestly want to compare this to Iraq, no nation-building. The sand savages can go back to the desert where they belong and set up their traditional primitive tribal conglomeration, along with their genetic petty internecine clan warfare. With no oil money and confiscation of their loot stashed in Western banks, they'll be fighting us with sticks and stones and will give up on this round of the continual jihad. They'll have to wait until the next time decadent weaklings rule the infidel world.

 

Ohhhh, so we are intellectually superior, therefore they have to abide by our rules huh? Sounds like the exact same mentality that slavery apologists used. Glad to know what kind of people I'm speaking to.

Yes, what a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you just typed, huh? You said something happened when it actually did happen. It's not my fault you're damn ignorant of our history.

Yup, I'm sure that pipe dream will work out for you.

I didn't even bring up Iraq, what the hell are you on?

Yup, pure and simple racism.

 

Which Limousine Liberal ventriloquist is using you for a dummy?

 

Christian Serbs in Bosnia committed genocide on Muslims, raping and murdering 200,000+ Muslims, murdering well over 3,500 children, and displacing 2,000,0000 other Muslims. This was in the 90's.

Meanwhile, in the US, you have Christians killing doctors, firebombing clinics, shooting at people's homes for supporting evolution, planning the murder of law enforcement officers in order to spur a revolution. Oh, and Christians supporting drone strikes that kill thousands of innocent people, as well as the invasion of countries that never attacked us. I could go on, but I have to go to bed and you will ignore my facts anyway.

 

Has nothing to do with their Christianity and is in direct contradiction of their Christian doctrine.

 

If you snooze, you lose. The enemy has sleeper cells, we have sleeping sellouts.

Does PF get a cut from the money the Saudis paid for your advertisement?

The Serbs were great at killing Nazis and great at killing Nazislamis. Many of the Bosnians and Kosovars our multiculties saved from them will grow up to be terrorists against us. Jihadists have no gratitude, they see NATO's punishment of Serbia as a sign of weakness.

 

Good one. Why don't you go back to telling me your version of American history, since it seems to be completely different from reality?

 

He is right, in the Muslim countries they are more terrible than the Christian country of America...

In America if you don't take personal responsibility for yourself then you are abused and/or locked away in the prison system like many of the minorities, but in Muslim countries they treat everyone like poop even those that work hard and take personal responsibility for themselves..

And for the women, only the ones who are lazy without jobs, don't do any work around the house, and depend on their husbands for financial support are beaten in Christian countries. But in Muslim countries, they even beat the women who are good providers and wives, and who respectfully submit to their husbands as it commands in both religions for women to do.

It is just despicable in Islam world, the lesser evil is Christianity because at least Christians allow Atheists like Bill Maher to exist and not be beheaded..

 

Right, it just happened to be a bunch of Christians killing and raping Muslims. Muslims also say that terrorist activity is contrary to Islam. Both books have violent and peaceful passages.

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Huh? wtf are you going on about? How does this counter anything I said?

 

I'm sorry, I must ask... How does one pronounce that word?

 

Only Islam commands the believers to commit violence. For Christians-

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” .

In contrast to Islam-

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

Polar opposites of each other.

 

Right, there's no verses in the Bible about stoning people or slaughtering every man woman and child in a city.

 

It's 100-1 and you lame islamapologists know it.

 

"ABOUT" stories from the past of violence in the past. No commandment for the believers to commit violence in the present. As well christians have the NEW testament while I suspect the majority of violent verses you refer to come from the old testament

 

You don't understand war. The soldiers' lives are at risk and this makes them insane. Psychologically, you can't expect any other behavior. We should never care what is done to the enemy, nor expect them to care what they do to us. One does not provoke the other either; it is just natural in the insane situation of war.

People still think of Bosnia as just a country fighting for its independence. That's as unrealistic as excusing Naziism because of the way Germany got unfairly punished after losing World War I. Al Qaida correctly considers Bosnia to be a launching point for the conquest of Europe.

It is understandable that people wish that the jihad were only a fringe element like the Christians who assassinate abortion doctors. But it is still treason to refuse to wake up. The World War II generation didn't care about all the German and Japanese old men, women, and children we "murdered" in air raids, nor should they have. We shouldn't say it was different because it wasn't done face to face, like the Serbian defenders of Europe did. Bosnians are whiners if they complain about the inevitable brutality of war. Until Islam puts a fatwa on jihad, all Muslims must be held accountable. Those who claim to not part of the jihad have to be given an incentive to desroy the jihadists on their own. Unless we have some decadent desire to be conquered, we must consider anyone who is not fighting for us to be fighting against us. Mercy will get us all killed, including our children and other non-combatants.

 

Not-see Slahm (accented and rhymes with "bomb") eeze

 

Comparing Islam to Christianity regarding violence is..........

It is more accurate to compare Saudi "Islam" with the Talmud as they agree on many issues.

 

Saudi Islam is really no different than every other salafist strain of Islam around the world with the exception of the Wahhabist acceptance of the rule of the house of Saud. Not relevant in the rest of the world. And they agree on very little with the Talmud. .

 

Whatever the actions of the Serbs, they did not base their actions on teachings of Christ. Their motives were ethnic hatred, not religious. They did not act as "Christians", but rather as Serbs.

We have had a total of 8 people killed in anti-abortion violence in the last 20 years. Eight. That is not Christianity proclaiming its superiority over other religions, to the point of death. It is one handful of people who see abortion as murder.

Your other strawmen are the lamest of arguments.

 

Same can be said for Muslims. It's all in how you read the scriptures. There's really no passage that says the OT laws are no longer in effect, and even if there was, it's still a matter of interpretation for both religions.

Actually, there's a large population of Christians who see abortion as murder, which is why so many republicans are trying to make abortion illegal again. Many republicans presidential candidates signed the person hood pledge, promising to make abortion murder.

There have been hundreds of terrorist incidences. Whether or not a lot of people died is irrelelvant to whether or not it's an entire religion "proclaiming superiority" over other religions. It doesn't change the fact that Christians are basing terrorist acts on how they interpret their religion. It doesn't change the fact that millions of Muslims are peaceful and interpret the religion as such. You have a pathetic double standard.



I made no strawman arguments.

 

Hey. Show me the last year that abortion was "illegal" in America, since you note "again" ? Before Roe v Wade it was a States' Rights issue is all.

20% + of all Muslims support jihad. Bill Maher made his points rather well. Make fun of Allah in print material, and you have to look over your shoulder. Ask Rushdie. Or the dead Dutchman. Make fun of Jesus, and you can drink anywhere in the US !!!

Your posts on this are stupid. Are full of red-herring nonsense. Refute mine if you can..

 

Where in the Bible does it say to no longer stone people? Are you saying the Bible contradicts itself? And even if it does say to no longer stone people, it doesn't change the fact that people can interpret the Bible differently, just like people interpret Islam differently. Whether or not a holy book says something doesn't change the fact that some people interpret the book in violent ways and others interpret it in peaceful ways. Islam and Christianity are no different in that aspect. Both can have terrorists, so stop being bigots.

 

Give it up. Show us where Christians are stoning people today. Heck, even the Mormons got up off polygamy in the last 100+ years.

But those stupid damned Muslims, who are as religiously ancient as they were 1000 years ago, who worship a pedophile jackass, are just as much committed to killing Christians as ever.