The Curious Case Of Trayvon Martin’s Backpack With Stolen Jewelry and Burglary Tool…

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    so you are suggesting druggie trayvon shot himself.....ok then.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    It was on his side in a nylon non-locking holster.

    It shows it was against his shirt and within inches of his skin.

    No evidence to support that claim as the barrel was fired against the hoody.
     
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    Wrong, it happens all the time. In fact, I've trained under such scenarios. It's not that difficult to do.
     
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    Martin would have to be above GZ in order to strike him effectively.

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    TM was killed in Feb. 2012.
     
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    Watch the re-enactment video.. George wore his nylon holster inside his pants slightly behind his left hip with the gun butt facing forward.

    Just think about it.. My daughter and I tried to act it out with her sitting on top of me in the mount position... We used an old fashioned eggbeater as the gun.
     
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    Show me to report that it is 4in. If I am getting a hip holstered weapon on a attacker who is on top of me how am I going to get it to he chest of my attacker. It isn't like they are going to let me. I could understand a shot to the rib cage or the arm of my attacker. But I can NOT wrap my mind around a chest wound. And Z has been pretty mum about the actual scuffle.
     
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    That's right.. Read the statute from 2011 and then the statute from summer of 2012.

    Its depraved indifference to make anyone afraid for their life or safety.. and George's excuse for doing so is flimsy and delusional.

    If George had followed me, I would have been so scared I would have hit him in the head with a flowerpot.. and he could explain his actions to the cops from his hospital bed.

    Macho bullies are all the same... They talk a good game.
     
  8. doombug

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    unless the state has something that proves their case beyond a reasonable doubt they should just give up. any juror, unless biased, wouldn't vote guilty with what they have.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Forensics shows otherwise

    According to the FDLE forensic report by analyst Amy Stewert released on March 22 "Both holes [in the hoody and the tee shirt] display residues and physical effects consistent with a contact shot".
     
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    And this is relevant, HOW? Are you trying to insinuate that GZ was a mugger, rapist, home invader, kidnapper or child molester? If so, then I think you'd better check out the record of your beloved TM -- his profile is more fitting your insinuations.
     
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    Trayvon's hoodie was gray.. I have three.. Yellow, pink and gray.. I wear them when I walk in the neighborhood in the winter. They are soft, warm and comfortable.

    I am just appalled at George's mentality.. I pass teens and young adults walking and talking on their cellphones nearly every evening.. in all sorts of weather. In the winter they ALL wear hoodies.

    George is simply stupid and delusional.. NO cop would ever make such an idiotic mistake.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    I have posted the 2012 FL statutes governing stalkings and assaults refuting your claims and you have refused to respond to them. Post the statutes and explain how Zimmerman's actions that night fulfilled either.

    And you would have been arrested.

    And that evidence would be used to convict you of aggravated battery.
     
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    And I bet your daughter saw the weapon or at least felt it.... and Z has never said that Martin tried to get the weapon...
     
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    Yes he has get your facts straight, it was a key point he made in the interviews.
     
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    No they don't... They show a lack of alignment.. as if someone was tugging on Trayvon's hoodie.
     
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    Evidence already posted. Gun against clothing. Stippling of skin. Post 473. With link.
     
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    The report supports a close range shot and when factoring the layers of clothing and stippleing it favors GZ's account.

    Not from what I've seen. Maybe you'd like to post the relevant part of the report you think supports your supposition?
     
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    No she said that she didn't feel it... even though she knew it was there when we set up the re-enactment. because the egg beater was basically underneath the small of my back..

    Try it yourself.
     
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    In the re-enactment video George clearly indicates his gun was on his side. It Only makes sense otherwise he would have been sitting on it in his truck, so it was on his side. Druggie Trayvon went for it and was shot.... self defense....

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    There isn't a guilty theory out there that isn't riddled with doubt.
     
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    That is called a "foward cant" of the holster which makes the firearm easy to conceal and retrieve from many different position-- including the position that GZ was in while being assaulted.

    All that proves is that you are not experienced in such activities, but I hope you still had some fun. I understand that an eggbeater can tickle a bit. :)
     
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    People who are generally in a sitting position favor behind the hip cross draw with the gun butt facing forward... just as George demonstrated in his video.
     
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    Yes they do and nothing indicates in the hoodie was being pulled or not, but do quote from the FDLE forensic that states that.

    Forensic pathologist Vinecent DiMario on NBC's Today show stated the shot likely occurred within 2 - 4 inches
    Former New York City chief medical examiner Michael Baden on Fox states that intermediate range is between 1-18 inches
    Michael Knox in his book on the matter
    " Beneath the dark hoody, Martin was wearing a light gray NIke Sweatshirt, long sleeved, with no hood.....It had none hole seven inches below the shoulder seam and seven-and-a-half inches from the left sleeve seam that corresponded in location to the hole in the hoodie".
     
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    Except the human wrist can't make that maneuver. Try it yourself with someone on top of you in the "mount" position.

    George would have shot himself in the side.
     
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    That would make you one of your "macho bullies". In reality, some one who is unarmed and fears that they are being followed or "stalked" are taught to run and get away from the area, go door to door and seek protection or shelter from a nearby home....etc.... none of which TM chose to do.
     
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    Apparently you don't live in GZ's neighborhood.

    The only delusion and idiotic mistake I am aware of so far is that of TM by confronting GZ, assaulting GZ, threatening to kill GZ, and for not realizing that GZ could be armed. In self-defense and personal protection training the student is taught awareness and avoidance is #1-- even when armed. Too bad TM went to the wrong school.
     

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