The Curious Case Of Trayvon Martin’s Backpack With Stolen Jewelry and Burglary Tool…

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  1. Margot

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    George is sick because he thinks every teen without a car is a criminal.. and George thinks he has authority and power he never earned. No cop would ever make such a stupid mistake.

    Teens without cars walk everywhere ... to the bus stop .. to the store... to each other's homes.

    The burglaries were all week day daytime events.. not at 7 PM on a rainy night when families were at home.

    George is just incredibly stupid.
     
  2. 1wiseguy

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    And likely died trying....:roll:

    TM should have done what you did and if you did what TM did you'd end up the same as TM.
     
  3. 1wiseguy

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    Where has he said that....got a link?
    Again, your link?

    What mistake?
    Yep, the good ones do.

    So, now its okay to profile? :roll:

    So, you know that everyone in the development was at home at the time? Got a link?

    So no burglaries have ever taken place in inclimate weather? got a link?


    Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again, each time expecting a different result. I don't think that fits anything GZ has done, not so true with your posts and position.
     
  4. Margot

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    No.. I have to know how much force to use.. You can usually stop someone without killing them. I have no delusions about playing cop..

    I would NEVER kill anyone unless my life or that of a loved one was threatened.

    Years ago I was reading in my bedroom.. in my underwear after a day of swimming and went to the kitchen to make a sandwich.. a Pakistani houseboy came up behind me in the kitchen... I turned on him with a knife and screamed bloody murder. He ran and was deported the next day.

    Even when you don't want to kill anyone, you have to be aggressive enough to send the message.
     
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    so?.....
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    I have posted the 2012 FL statutes governing stalkings and assaults refuting your claims and you have refused to respond to them. Post the statutes and explain how Zimmerman's actions that night fulfilled either.

    Still waiting.
     
  7. DonGlock26

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    You don't remember being corrected and apologizing?

    http://www.ktuu.com/videogallery/70...testifies-to-George-Zimmerman-apos-s-injuries

    00:40 on video
     
  8. 1wiseguy

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    Oh, so your going to stop some one with a measured response using a flower pot? :lol:

    You'd be lucky if you could even hit some one on their body with a flower pot much less be spot on in the head with all that adrenalin coursing through your veins. :roll:


    Usually? The goal is to stop the threat, but it depends on how dedicated your attacker is as to how possible that goal can be.

    Maybe about playing cop....:roll:
    So, you're no different than GZ yet you hold him in contempt? Hypocrisy comes to mind.
    So you stopped an innocent, unarmed person in his tracks and he ran away. Great. And if he had continued, you would have killed him. Excellent. Then you would have done exactly what GZ did. GOT IT.

    So, why then didn't TM do the same as your "attacker"?

    Again with your hypocrisy ....or do you think that was GZ's goal all the time. If so, where's the evidence?
     
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    They don't need no stinking evidence, this here is a media trial boy!


     
  10. 1wiseguy

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    Ah yes, the GZ Express RailRoad! :)
     
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    What are you talking about?

    Seriously?

    Zimm doesn't crossdraw in the reenactment.

    Or wait, maybe you believe he wore the gun/holster that way because he planned to draw his gun from a sitting position in his vehicle?

    The amount of supposition you put on the events in this case seems about equal to your hubris.
     
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    No has said he didn't. He didn't have a right to commit a felony battery on Zimmerman, he lost his life because he did.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    You reach down and grab anb pull it from the nylon non-restraining holster it was in. And his statement is the Martin saw the gun as his shirt go hiked up and started to run his hand down Zimmerman's side when Zimmerman was able to trap it in his under arm and then beat him to the draw.

    You know that you find something amazing does not disprove it.

    What evidence can you produce that conclusively and beyond a reasonable doubt proves Zimmerman did not act in self defense?
     
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    These seem to be Left-wing talking points being regurgitated here. Zimmerman told the police what he did and the prosecutor didn't want him charged until the media racial crap storm started. Basically the case against GZ is crap molded into a variety of shapes. But, at the end of the day, it's still crap.
     
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    When you wear the pistol butt forward .. you generally cross draw. Try it yourself.
     
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    That picture really doesn't have the look of a guy who has just had his head violently smashed into a concrete sidewalk.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Sure it does, two separate lacerations to the back of the skull. What's it suppose to look like? You know he didn't have to wait until Martin mustered enough force to smash his skull open and brains start pouring out before he can defend himself.
     
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    How do you know? I had my head violently smashed against concrete. I suffered a skull fracture was on the hospital for over a week and would have died if my skull had sustained another blow. Aside from a little blood in my eye I had no sign that I came as close to death as I did, I didn't even have a cut.
     
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    George didn't....

    George waded into a situation that he created... and was too stupid to speak up.
     
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    Really? Have you try to squeeze someone's hand (or simply even an INERT object like a book) between your upper arm and your body, and, with the same arm, reach down for a gun (or anything else) concealed under your waistband, to the back of your hip, grab that object and bring it up. . . And AIM . . . .and tell me how you manage that and still manage to get the perfect, direct front to back shot straight to the heart of a moving target.

    I'd love to see that! Especially when this guy wasn't even able to grab the hands that were "smothering him" to breathe!. . .
     
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    Total specious post.... your premise is by one who so obviously doesn't know a thing about personal protection, armed self-defense or CQC. A fight is dynamic and a firearm can be easily presented in GZ's case--there is no "AIMING" in CQC. People are trained for such scenarios everyday and can successfully execute such moves. :roll:
     
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    Ohh please....... George was drawing with his left hand with the gun butt facing forward....... LOLOL Watch the renactment video.
     
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    So? I've seen the re-enactment before the hacks have torn it apart with opinion and innuendo. The fact of the matter is that when you are in such a battle, NO ONE can give a blow by blow accurate account. What I have seen does in fact support much of GZ's account--including his injuries. I predict that GZ will walk and all this is much ado about nothing.
     
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    I disagree with you. . and the "AIM" comment is not mine. . .it is what ZIMMERMAN stated he did!

    Yes. . a fight is dynamic. . .duh!

    So. . .how did Zimmerman manage to get his gun out while keeping Martin's hand from reaching his gun by immobilizing it with his upper arm. . . while Zimmerman was "pinned" to the ground, and still managed to reach for the gun with his lower arm. . . . pull the gun situated to the BACK of his hip, and AIM?

    You can criticize anything I say. . .but apparently with all your knowledge of "self defense," you are unable to give an explanation of how Zimmerman managed to accomplish the "perfect" direct, front to back shot, 1 inch from the median of his victim's chest, right into his lower lung and his heart. . .in a "DYNAMIC" fight!

    I am so anxious to hear the lesson in "self-defense" you will certainly give "silly me!" to show how "fallacious" my argument really is. Please explain what is so clearly wrong about what I said. . .and please make it in terms a little more precise than a simple statement that what I said was "specious!" :wink: :roflol:
     

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