Part 6 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

So is it correct to state that your understanding of the Noah story is that God told Noah to build an ark, fill it full of various animals and his immediate family, and to stay in it for a year while water covered the tallest mountains on the planet? And that while that was going on the other "good" people went about their daily business even though the whole world was just one giant ball of water without one single square inch of dry ground?

 

Um yeah you keep posting this, it doesnt deserve a response because its meaningless. Just because someone thinks someone else's heart is full of evil doesnt give them the right to kill them. Do I have a right to kill you if I believe you to have nothing but evil in your heart?
So your telling me a 3 yr old was killed because he had nothing but pure evil in his heart?
Your bible you posted proves god killed man. Its directly excerpted below. Not every creature on earth could have possibly been evil so why did god kill them. You can no longer say god didnt kill them. Your bible said he did. (see below) It also states he had forethought and planning which makes it murder 1 by todays standards. Would you like me to quote that part as well from YOUR bible?
Yahweh smelt the pleasing smell and said to himself, 'Never again will I curse the earth because of human beings, because their heart contrives evil from their infancy. Never again will I strike down every living thing as I have done.

 

Some parts of the Bible have to be taken as allegory. There is no way that there was an actual universal flood with anyone saving just two of every animal to populate the Earth. That is just not possible at all.

 

Then provide those verses and I will explain it to you.

God will never give anyone permission to kill anyone love ones unless that person is wicked and evil. And I will not be okay because God will never do such evil or wicked thing any god that does that is a false and evil god.

 

There were no good people left it was the people that were wicked and evil not God, Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

 

What you wrote is probably true. However, we are stuck with the actual words and their meanings. We can interpret them to mean anything that we want them to mean, which may not be what the writers intended.

For instance, I interpret the Noah story to actually mean a period of wide-spread upheaval where people were cast about from place to place because of war. As you notice, as soon as the major period of distress (the flood) is over, Noah and his sons are multiplying like roaches and founding all of the assorted tribes of man. How silly is that? And then they are building cities from one end of the world to the other. Does an actual flood that covered all of the world make sense in that context? I don't think so. But we do know that the various Middle East empires came and went and moved whole tribes of people around them. So it makes sense (even though it might be wrong) to conclude that the flood was referring to one of those political upheavals.

 

Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. It is meaningless to you because you chose to use your false bible and I am still waiting for you to post from your false bible that state that God kill the good people and not the wicked and evil people. You are not God so you won't know what is in my thoughts. And if you do want to kill me it is because you have evil thoughts not because I have evil thoughts.

Their parents were already grooming and training them to become evil, to become killers, rapist, steal lands from others, enslave others in today's term it is called child soldiers and that 3 year old will also have the same wicked and evil thoughts and action as of the adults.

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Evil and wicked man.

How do you know? Are you a god?

Yes please quote that God kill good people so far you have not posted anything except your distorted claims.

Genesis 8:21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
God decided to leave the fate of man to themselves and let them deal with their own wickedness and evilness for God's love for humans is so great that no matter how evil and wicked they may become He still loves them that is why from that day on God has not destroy men anymore only men have continue to destroy each other and God weep in sorrow to see all this wickedness and evilness but God have put hope to men that they will triumph over all this wickedness and evilness.

 

Then your God is a wicked and evil God. Have you not read Job?

Here are the first twenty verses for you to work on. They only get you a few books into the bible. When you are done coming up with excuses for these, we will give you the next twenty, and then another twenty after that, and so on.

1.Genesis 20:11
And Abraham said, “Because I thought, surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will kill me on account of my wife.
Genesis 20:10-12 (in Context) Genesis 20 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
2.Genesis 21:17
And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Genesis 21:16-18 (in Context) Genesis 21 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
3.Genesis 22:12
And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
Genesis 22:11-13 (in Context) Genesis 22 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
4.Genesis 26:24
And the Lord appeared to him the same night and said, “I am the God of your father Abraham; do not fear, for I am with you. I will bless you and multiply your descendants for My servant Abraham’s sake.”
Genesis 26:23-25 (in Context) Genesis 26 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
5.Genesis 31:42
Unless the God of my father, the God of Abraham and the Fear of Isaac, had been with me, surely now you would have sent me away empty-handed. God has seen my affliction and the labor of my hands, and rebuked you last night.”
Genesis 31:41-43 (in Context) Genesis 31 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
6.Genesis 31:53
The God of Abraham, the God of Nahor, and the God of their father judge between us.” And Jacob swore by the Fear of his father Isaac.
Genesis 31:52-54 (in Context) Genesis 31 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
7.Genesis 42:18
Then Joseph said to them the third day, “Do this and live, for I fear God:
Genesis 42:17-19 (in Context) Genesis 42 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
8.Genesis 46:3
So He said, “I am God, the God of your father; do not fear to go down to Egypt, for I will make of you a great nation there.
Genesis 46:2-4 (in Context) Genesis 46 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
9.Exodus 1:17
But the midwives feared God, and did not do as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the male children alive.
Exodus 1:16-18 (in Context) Exodus 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
10.Exodus 1:21
And so it was, because the midwives feared God, that He provided households for them.
Exodus 1:20-22 (in Context) Exodus 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
11.Exodus 9:30
But as for you and your servants, I know that you will not yet fear the Lord God.”
Exodus 9:29-31 (in Context) Exodus 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
12.Exodus 15:11
“Who is like You, O Lord, among the gods? Who is like You, glorious in holiness, Fearful in praises, doing wonders?
Exodus 15:10-12 (in Context) Exodus 15 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
13.Exodus 18:21
Moreover you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.
Exodus 18:20-22 (in Context) Exodus 18 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
14.Exodus 20:20
And Moses said to the people, “Do not fear; for God has come to test you, and that His fear may be before you, so that you may not sin.”
Exodus 20:19-21 (in Context) Exodus 20 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
15.Leviticus 19:14
You shall not curse the deaf, nor put a stumbling block before the blind, but shall fear your God: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:13-15 (in Context) Leviticus 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
16.Leviticus 19:32
‘You shall rise before the gray headed and honor the presence of an old man, and fear your God: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:31-33 (in Context) Leviticus 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
17.Leviticus 25:17
Therefore you shall not oppress one another, but you shall fear your God; for I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 25:16-18 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
18.Leviticus 25:36
Take no usury or interest from him; but fear your God, that your brother may live with you.
Leviticus 25:35-37 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
19.Leviticus 25:43
You shall not rule over him with rigor, but you shall fear your God.
Leviticus 25:42-44 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
20.Deuteronomy 1:21
Look, the Lord your God has set the land before you; go up and possess it, as the Lord God of your fathers has spoken to you; do not fear or be discouraged.’
Deuteronomy 1:20-22 (in Context) Deuteronomy 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

 

Your god is wicked and evil not my God as I have posted that God only punish the evil and wicked not the good one. Your god kill good people.
I know you will continue to ignore this phrase so I will keep on posting it so you and the general public may know.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually

I have read Job and it is clear Satan was jealous because no matter what Satan does to make life miserable for Job, Job continue to worship and love God and refuse to curse God. The story of Job is a clear example of pure loyalty of love, truth and goodness.

Many anti God have been doing all kinds of stuff to make God loving people to leave, hate and curse God some will succumb to their temptation while others will stay strong and faithful to God.

I will give you explanations of truth not excuses to counter your distortion.

The "fear" use in connection to God is = to awe, extreme reverence and respect. Not afraid, apprehension, horror, or frighten.

 

Job 23:13-15 "But he stands alone, and who can oppose him? He does whatever he pleases. He carries out his decree against me, and many such plans he still has in store. That is why I am terrified before him; when I think of all this, I fear him.

Doesn't sound like simple respect to me here, as Job describes why he quakes.
It makes Job's faithfulness appear more like cowering, doesn't it?

 

Job has so much respect, love and understand God that he knows very well the horror of sins and he speak in humility that he may not sin for he fear the consequence of sinning not even Satan could succeed in changing Job's mind to curse God and not to fear God for Job fear God more than Satan.

Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
Only the wicked and evil ones are not afraid of God.

And when ever God or His angels appear to their subjects such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, Daniel, Mary or Joseph their initial reaction were always terrified and God or His messenger will always calm them down and assure them that there is nothing to fear (terrified).

 

What is truth. What you believe it to be? Nope. I don't think so.

Opinion, again.

So it is still "your opinion", no matter what you base it on.

Opinions mean squat. I've been telling you that.
One should not rest the eternal being on just "opinions".

 

There are at least 3 people in this forum that say you are wrong. Oh, and there are only 3 people answering questions.

 

LOL, way to change the meaning of a word.
Prove the hebrew translation is "awe". It may be, but you should have that at your finger tips.

 

Truth is anything that conform with the facts of reality the reality is that the Bible is very clear to the lineage of Mary and Joseph they are both from the house of David to Abraham to Noah and Jesus Christ father was God not Joseph.

Not my opinion but from the Bible.

Not my opinion it is from the Bible on the other hand yours is an opinion that are twisting and or distorting what the Bible is not saying.

Yes opinion mean squat especially if it is full of distortion and lies.

That is why the Bible is very clear and that is why I have brought forward that clearness on the other hand anti Bible and anti God people continue to twist the Bible because they can not accept the Truth about the Bible.

 

No changing of meaning from me:
"fear" = http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fear
1. To be afraid or frightened of.
2. To be uneasy or apprehensive about: feared the test results.
3. To be in awe of; extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power..
4. To consider probable; expect: I fear you are wrong. I fear I have bad news for you.

People who worship and follow God fear Him because they know the consequence of sinning not because they are afraid or terrified of God. At the same time those who are against God are not afraid or fear Him because they want to be able to do anything they want especially to do evil and wicked things that is why Satan never tempt anyone to be afraid of him or fear him because Satan has no problem with people wanting to do anything be wicked or be evil. Satan will promise wealth, power and pleasure. God will only promise eternal happiness.

That is why when ever God or His messenger appear to a subject they always calm them and reassure them there is nothing to FEAR (fear meaning terrified)

In Job's story is a clear example loyalty and love for goodness and shun evil and temptation.

 

Can you really say that there is no one who does not worship God out of fear of the consequences of not obeying him?

But, what you say is kinda odd. God, in my opinion, is a frightening figure. This is the being who destroyed two cities for doing things he did not want them to do. This is the being who destroyed the world once and plans on doing it again because we did not measure up to his expectations. He made the first man and woman and cursed them and everyone that came after them for doing something he didn't want them to do, as well as cursing all snakes for telling those two to do something he did not want them to do.

It would seem only intelligent to fear such a being.

 

Definition of AWE

1
: an emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the sacred or sublime <stood in awe of the king> <regard nature's wonders with awe>
2
archaic
a : dread, terror
b : the power to inspire dread

OK. But fear is fear. And one must fear to believe. Just as you do.

 

Proverbs 20:30 (NLT) = Physical punishment cleanses away evil; such discipline purifies the heart.

Isaiah 1:25 (CEV) = I will punish you terribly and burn away everything that makes you unfit to worship me.

Isaiah 10:23 (CEV) = The Lord All-Powerful has promised that everyone on this earth will be punished.

Is this why you dread and are in terror? You know in awe?

 

Yes and I am one of the many who worship God not because we are terrified but because we understand God and we wish that when we die we will have eternal happiness.

Are you terrified or fear God?

Are your parents a frightening figure?

It is not we who did not live up to His expectation it is about wicked and evil people wanting to hurt and destroy others. And God destroy those evil people.

It was Eve and Adam who curse everyone by sinning because they accepted Satan's temptation to live a life of no rules, no laws a life of wickedness and evil. Example: automatic firearms in the hands of responsible law abiding individuals expect no disaster because they follow the rules and law.

Do you prefer to live a life base on what Satan is offering a life of power, wealth and pleasure?

Fear the consequence of being evil and wicked.

 

Fear the consequence of being evil and wicked not fear to do good and be good.

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No not in terror, those proverbs strengthen my faith and belief in the Almighty God.
Are you in hatred because of those proverbs?

 

OK, if three people want to maintain that something that is a scientific impossibility actually happened, then so be it.

 

When I was under 10, yes, They could punish me. After that, they could not. I got older and yes they still controlled me, but they could not make santa not bring me presents.

So 1 yr old were going to destroy and hurt others. Even if it was only parents that should've/could've been destroyed.

When was the last time was active in the earthly happenings.

If one is not evil and wicked, then why be in awe or fear?

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Why such an ignorant post?? I hate nothing.

 

I just saying there are 3 christians in this entire forum. And they believe it. Everyone else is not a biblical christian.

 

So now Job does fear God.
Only the wicked don't fear God.
You are all over the map.