Can it get any more ARROGANT

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    And let's not forget that for all practical purposes almost all limits on political speech by corporations and Non profits regardless of class were struck down. That means by and large that if in all other ways the entity qualifies as a non profit than it can say, politically whatever the hell it ones regardless of restrictions placed there by congress.
     
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    Your assumptions or memory are faulty. This is EXACTLY what witnesses have done for the last 200 years. That is because this is just one more in a stream of self serving grandstanding and not an investigation to fix anything.

    How do I know this is the case? Simple. There is a long standing and much used rule that would bring out the truth immediately; one that hasn't been used for any of these political excersises since Iran/Contra that I know of; grant the testimony of the witness immunity from prosecution. This does NOT mean the witness can not later be prosecuted for the crime, but that nothing said at the hearing is admissible in court. They use to do it all the time in Congressional hearings, but that closes the doors and the Congressmen can't get on TV asking their grandstanding questions.

    These hearings are about 30 second campaign commercials, not investigating anything. The tools exist if they wanted information, but information you can't get on the News isn't anything they are interested in.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The real arrogance is in attempting to manufacture outrage over some relatively minor level shenanigans that have been around since bureaucracy was invented.

    Spend all the time in the world trying to discredit the administration while blocking all meaningful legislation designed to address the real issues and challenges of the country and not proposing any fo their own viable solutions. Yep congressional republicans should be proud of their almost total lack of governance.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the Senate really needs to act on those forty odd bills the Hous has sent them...
    Obama and the Democrat Senate are indeed standing in the way of much need reforms.
     
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    I agree! This is almost as bad as when Bush (jr, not the good one) was caught red-handed breaking the law! And not just ANY law but the Constitution! On a mass scale! And not only did he admit to it, he got pissed at the "Liberal Media" for telling on him!
    Hell, this is as bad as when Reagan was busted supply arms to known terrorists, against US policy!
    I have just never seen anything so arrogant!
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I think you're confusing dishonesty and manipulation with the last Republican criminal President...Bush. Lied us into war. Refused to testify under oath about 9/11. (and he refused to testify AT ALL if Dick Cheney couldn't be right there beside him at all times). How sick is that? Yes...you must have your wires crossed.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Fraudster Get back to me when you have evidence that Bush actually lied. Thus far all you've produced s DNC talking points Truther horse crap.

    NPA you are of course wrong.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    You must be the only one in the modern world that believes Bush didn't lie. Seriously dude, you need to get out a little.
     
  9. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Yes Fraudster I am well aware that there are tons of people that believe (*)(*)(*)(*) that just isn't proven. That of course does not leave me under compulsion to also believe stuff that just isn't proven
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I know, I know...Obama, Clinton, all liars, but your George, he was just wonderful. We know.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    George was not wonderul in fact domestically he governed to the left of Clinton.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Bush lied. Use your google. You have to be intelligent enough to do that huh? Why should I do it for you?
     
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    So you have no evidence? That figures.
     
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    Your obsession with me continues. Very flattering boss.
     
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    Nice try at derailing. Still no evidence? Will you be as impotent at this claim?
     
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    Like a lost puppy looking for food.....ROFL!!! Take a break boss.
     
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    And you are like a blind man playing dodge ball. Any evidence for your silly claim? No? We'll just assume it was wrong, then.
     
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    Yes boss...are you done?
     
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    Wow. Didn't realize there were Bush Fans here! How about this doozy: "We are not listening in on domestic calls without a warrant."
    Oops.
    All US presidents have lied and lied often. Do you really think anyone gets to and then works in that post without telling a LOT of lies? If so, then um well, that's a bit naive.
     
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    You don't remember George W. Bush ignoring the Constitution?
     
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    Wow. Didn't realize there were Bush Fans here! How about this doozy: "We are not listening in on domestic calls without a warrant."
    Oops.

    There is no evidence that Domestic calls were being listened to. What was being listened to is calls that originated over seas but came though our system for a period of time. By the way overseas wireless intercepts was what NSA was originally chartered for. The problem with modern communications is that calls are often routed in a rather circuitous manner to avoid over crowding on some links during certain times of the day.
     
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    But according to the boss, and this last gent, they don't lie. Why? Cause I would have to walk them through it step by step like a child. They still wouldn't admit it though cause verifying the lies isn't their agenda.
     
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    OMG dude if you're that friggin' stupid and departed from reality then um yeah. Okay. Bush didn't get caught through the subpoena of three major carriers, Never happened. Just ask any whackjob with a memory that has been completely programmed by FOX, they'll tell you!
    And Bush & Rumsfeld knew EXACTLY where the WMD's were! I bet you believe that too! :roflol:
     
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    But what was supoenaed? And No one claimed to know exactly where everything was only that they thought he had chemical weapons and Possibly biological ones as well and was trying to go nuclear. They were wrong but so were the intelligence agencies of half the countries in the West. Hell half the Democrats in congress and in the proceeding administration had said they thought Saddam had Chemical weapons prior to Bush being elected.
     
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    Did you happen to catch Ted Cruz on the Senate floor yesterday? Wow,that guy is incarnate of McCarthy all the way!
     

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