Would the world be a better place without America?

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  1. CaptainAngryPants

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    It wasn't a political statement, merely a statement of historical and theological fact.
     
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    Baseball and country music seem to be more successful in Japan.
     
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    They are supposed facts that are accepted by people who have no fricking idea what they are talking about.
     
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    I see, so your hair brained pop culture interpretations have more credibility than actual theology. That makes perfect sense now, I don't know why I didn't see it before.
     
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    Never Left is Never Right.
     
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    The Iraq war was fought for the defense of America? Defense against what, exactly? As for the 'evil dictator' stuff I can name a dozen that America totally ignored-or financed (like Pol Pot, for example), so the moral argument is left high and dry. America has left many nations living under the tender mercies of savages. America only ever intervenes if it is in America's interest to do so. Quid pro quo. You also tried carpet bombing Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. You failed to achieve anything from it but abject defeat for America at the hands of peasants in pyjamas.
    Whether a nation wants democracy or not is for them to decide and not for America. That isn't democracy, it's the imposition of an alien system of government on a sovereign nation. I call that fascism.
     
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    Yes, we like things that are fun. middle eastern obscure cults are not fun. Beside that Christianity, Judaism and Islam are like perversions of the nature we see around us.
     
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    Tell me what is the basis of this hatred you have for America and Americans? Why the animosity?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    You know I had Japan on my list of places I would like to visit..........................think I'm going to take it off if this is what people in Japan think of Americans and this is the type of reception I could expect to receive. Korea looks far more inviting.

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    You do realize we, the United States, is not a democracy?
     
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    The Iraq war was fought in defense of America.

    A volatile dictator obtaining nukes or other WMDs who would not have a problem using them against us.

    We were clearly not the only ones who thought so either.

    They were not as big a threat to us. Though I personally would not have had a problem bombing them as well.

    The moral argument is as valid as before. Because I never said the Iraq war was a war of morality. I just said it was a war of Defense.

    Polpot was not trying to get nukes to use against us.

    ...because we were unwilling to use nukes. Are you suggesting that if we had used nukes to win the war you would have approved?

    We were obviously capable of winning those wars. How would they defend against nukes? We were unwilling to inflict the necessary damage to do so.

    The same was true in Iraq. The war looks messy because we put constraints on ourselves...there are things we were unwilling to do in order to win.

    It is for the dictator to decide? If you do not have a problem with the dictator imposing his will on the masses, why do you have a problem with us doing it?

    The word "fascism" does not mean what you think it means.
     
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    I actually still like Japan. I have owned an NES, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn and has a Playstation 1 the day it came out. I have owned Japanese cars, and if there was a single food I had to live on the rest of my life, I would pick sushi.

    I don't think he is as representative of the general population of Japan as he thinks he is. japan is still one of the few foreign countries I would like to visit. Australia is another one.

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    Which of those definitions does not apply to the US. You tell me.
     
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    They are the same in a lot of ways. Christianity is a continuation of Judaism. Islam is likewise a continuation of Christianity. The Muslims consider Jesus to be a prophet like Moses. They believe all the same stuff the Christians and Jews believe, just a slight variation of it. The Old testament is their religion as well.
     
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    I think it is because we eat dairy products. His culture appears to have a seething hatred of all dairy products.
     
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    I'm against tourism in japan. So you don't bother me with that, Korea on the other side is considered a cheap japan copy. but do as you like.

    and i dont hate usa. i just don't like it. my parents did spend alot of money for my school exchange and i got nothing in return but dirt, stupidity, discomfort and low quality. that forged the image i have of your nation.
     
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    Why did you parents send you here for school? Why not a Japanese school?
     
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    Try the Guarantee Clause of the Constitution. We are a federal republic. We do not rule by majority. There are no national elections or referendums. The founding fathers were quite clear in that they were NOT creating a democracy.
     
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    I really have no interest in trying to have civil conversations with people who harbor such petty grievances no matter what their misguided bigoted perceptions.
     
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    A Republic and a Democracy are not mutually exclusive definitions. At the time of the formation of the nation we were only a Republic. Now we are also a democrfacy. We were not a democracy back then because we had no universal suffrage (Woman and minorities had no representation).

    Yes we do. Laws are passed by majority vote. Presidents are elected by a majority of electors.

    The Definition does not require a direct vote:

    We fit all definitions for democracy.

    This is not the same nation of the Founding Fathers. We have had many amendments since then. Their Constitution was far different than ours.

    We were not a democracy then. We are now.
     
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    Also...I think you know better than to trust in titles to define a form of government. Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea really a democracy just because "democratic" is in the name? Gimme a break.

    Likewise, we are not solely a Republic merely because the Constitution does not mention the word "democracy" anywhere. The definition for the actual word in our language is clear in it's meaning. There is no ambiguity.
     
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    You must be new to the board not to know that it's exactly because we helped save millions of Jewish lives during WW2 that a fairly large contingent hates us and will never forgive us for that. As you read more posts here, you'll see what I mean.
     
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    And yet, your women sure threw open those legs to arriving GI's after the war.

    That's why it's important for the Japanese to keep themselves isolated. They don't want their women to see what else is out there and what they are missing.

    Since you were in the States I'm sure you are well aware where Asian males rate in sexual market value in the West. Way down at the bottom. I bet it must have killed you to see Asian, particularly Japanese women, dating white and black guys while Asian guys got nothing.

    I think I'm beginning to understand some of your anti US rage...



    Ironic since your nation is in a demographic death spiral. For all of your self described superiority, you're country is failing Darwin's ultimate test.

    The question is, when the last Japanese has died of old age, childless, who gets the country and it's collection of robots?
     
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    You don´t know what a school exchange program is right? You go a few weeks or months in a foreign school. I was 4 months and was happy as i could return. I wanted to learn about another country and got only dirt.
     
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    You fail again in history. In Japan even the prostitutes deneid american customers after WW II. The government needed to call their patriotism to safe girls from rapists...and even then they got not enough prostitutes...tehy had to reuse the korean comfort women...

    And about women...I had much sucess in the USA. I was relative popular. But i wouldn´t start something with your...alot are ugly and smell...and i see that under my niveau. I do alot of sports and compete regional in bodybuilding here in Kyoto. Alot girls there found me attractive

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    I don´t say i´m perfect but i´m not unattractive either. What i don´t understand why your women act so openly like sluts. They don´t even know me at a party and then later want start kissing...I find that disgusting and honorless but its your culture.

    And about "population". Japan is overpopulated. We must reduce by 30%. Which is ok and Standard for all industrial nations. Your population on other hand gets extinct and replaced from africans and mexicans...no loss if you ask me.
     
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    Lol, I'm sure women threw themselves at you! Yet another online Casanova...

    But you really need to look at that demographic death spiral. I don't think you guys know how to turn that off.
     
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    I would not go to a lower quality school just for the sake of an exchange, no. I had assumed your parents sent you here because all the American universities are the best in the world.

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...p-100-universities-data-mit-harvard-cambridge

    The first Japanese school comes in at #32. The US has 12 of the top 20, including the top 2.
     
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