Would the world be a better place without America?

America is clearly the 'evil empire' of movie fame, a nefarious and overarching force for bad in the world, subjugating people's and undermining democratically elected governments all over the world for decades and decades, sucking up all the world's resources, spying on all of us, propping up a malignant regime in Israel. What would the world be like without the USA?

 

Well, America does some good stuff, too. So wouldn't it be best if we just stopped doing the bad stuff?

 

That would be nice, however you use 25% of the world's oil while having 4% of the world's population, it would require some pretty big changes.

 

Let's try for some balance, shall we?

I agree the US has been an international bully and the foreign policy track record has been a disaster for the entire world and is getting worse. For each terrorist Obama kills, ten are born so he is ensuring a long, long, long war.

But what would the world look like without US technology, it's aircraft, computers, medicines?

What would the world look like in the aftermath of tragedies like, oh say Managua, Nicaragua in the late 70's where it was American troops all the way from Brownsville Texas who were the first to deliver medical after landing on a debris filled runway and destroying their own transportation?

What would the world look like without GPS?, knowledge of space, the surface of the moon? and the list goes on.

The problem is that the US is always trying to eliminate some other country from the face of the earth.

If we could find a medicine that could tamp down the paranoia-fed micro management, things might calm down a bit. But until then we have to take the bad with the good and treat them like Canada has....like a wasps nest. If you are careful and clever you can score some honey off them, so long as no one pokes the nest.....

 

Well, think of it another way. If some other country wants oil can they readily get it? I travel extensively and no one seems to be low on oil outside of some places where infrastructure issues make getting it hard. So, aside from the issues regarding the burning of fossil fuels, our use of oil does not seem terribly "evil". The fact is, developed countries use more oil than less developed countries. That's why China and India are helping to drive the price up as they build out.

 

Nicaragua the country whose government you overthrew when its drug dealing leader you had been in business with for 20 years no longer suited your interests? That Nicaragua? We have technology and medicine elsewhere in the world too you know, a lot of it very very good, but do it without invading the rest of the world to pillage their resources.

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The fact is fat Americans in SUV's use much more than they NEED to, and that is really the point. It is a finite resource which causes wars the world over, and you lot use much more than you have to use cause you're lazy and your cars are crap.

 

Can the world do without America? I don't know.

I think the important question to ask is, can America do without the world?

And I think the answer to that is a resounding "yes."

 

Really? Can it do without the world's oil? Can it do without the world's cheap labour and buying its products and debt? I think the answer is you don't have a clue what you're talking about

 

Actually, pretty much every country that uses oil uses more than they NEED to. That gets sorted out via the price of oil

It is finite for everyone else using it, too. If you don't like American cars, then don't buy one. Problem solved!

 

The United States has 315 million people and is big enough to provide markets for its own goods and services. Also, we have plentiful natural resources including oil, coal and natural gas. We are more capable of self-sufficiency than any other country. Supporting Communist China and propping up its dictatorship through free trade is a mistake, and we should stop.

 

I don't buy them cause they're rubbish and inefficient, but Americans use much more than they need to, proportionally way more than any other people in the world. See you can't even accept your failings you try to argue them away, Americans misuse oil on a much greater scale than any other people on the face of the planet. We will never be able to fix these things if you don't even accept they are realities to begin with. And if doesn't get sorted via the price of oil does it, it gets sorted via you invading countries that are home to oil and propping up the most brutal regime in the world in Saudi Arabia cause they sell you oil.

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No its not, its market is nowhere near big enough and it can't produce the goods it needs cheap enough within America either, which is why American companies produce their goods in Asia and Africa. China is a lot closer to self sufficiency than America. Canada is too.

 

Now you are just getting stupid. We don't invade countries and steal their oil. We do invade countries to be sure. And for reasons that are often silly. But we don't steal their oil. And Saudi Arabia is not the most brutal regime on Earth. They suck ass. I'll grant you that. But they are not the worst.

 

Mungo, what country are you from? I'd just like to know.

 

Let's start with subjugating people, since "overarching force for bad" is so generic. What people are subjugated under US rule of law?

 

If you eliminated the USA, of course there will be some effect. But who is to know for certain whether it is postive or negative.

If you eliminated all of the people of the world, except for the most righteous man in the world and his immediate family, say by a great flood for example, there would still be an eventual division among the future generations, because of an inherent flaw in the basic design of humans. It is a flaw which alters their brain chemistry and it is caused by biologically driven desires relative to their nervous system, such as hunger, pain, and sexual drive. Then there are the five senses, which also affect the human mind and cause it often to deviate from pure logical deduction, and inrationally justify in the moment of such deviation, the violent death of themselves and/or destruction of their environment.

The real question:
Is there a way, to reduce the severity of biologically driven impulses, by developing a logical system of distribution which will alleviate anxiety, thus reducing the probability of affliction to the nervous system caused by deprivation, thus allowing a greater probability for the mental faculty of humans to reason rather than to simply react to stimulus from the environment within which they are but one part of the total equation of life on planet earth.

 

Would the world be a better place without America?

In a word, 'no'.

Would the world be better off without YOUR country?

I'm sure it wouldn't.

 

This is actually an interesting question. If you refine it just a touch you get some some surprising results. Even if there isn't a United States, you still have a lot of people and real estate that exist in place. So let us assume instead of a United States, you simply have 50 seperate states each managed by its own people for its own benefit. There would be alliances, conflicts, different types of government, and probably a war or two between them at any given time.

The overall economy would be much less efficient and therefore much less interesting to many other emerging nations since imports would drop considerably. The largest states would do relatively well since Alaska would still be rich in resources and California is already the 8th largest economy in the world all by itself. A lot of the smaller states would be in bad trouble and natural events like floods or droughts could overwhelm them and keep basically as a 3rd world economy. No doubt at least a few would fail and become little more that a regional burden plaguing neighbors with crime and petty violence.

Internationally, it would give free reign to the other big players, notably China and Russia. They would take over the economic control of internationally traded commodities, and leave unchecked in foreign expansion. In the long term, it would probably mean that China becomes the uncontested ruler of the world. Their advantage is they are as wide spread and becoming as diverse as the US but have the addition bind that not only are they the same nationally, but ethnically as well. It becomes the glue that sticks things together and makes sure they remain a single nation not a group of warring states, or at least it has worked for 5000 years.

 

Would the world would be a better place without folks who hate America?

 

Karl Marx? Is that you?

 

Who would you call when you have a hurricane/tsunami/earthquake/flooding/war ?

Personally, I'd like to see an America without the rest of the world's complaining and high maintenance, and desire to destroy.

 

America would be a better place without the US

Seriously though, the US does a lot of good in the world, but the US government is so top heavy these days, voters need to really need to spend some time deciding whether or not this is really a good thing, and adapt accordingly. 30-40% of the population never votes and the majority of the ones that do vote are so brain-washed partisan that they would vote for the person they otherwise would oppose just because they have the right party affiliation. In other words, if Obama were a republican, the GOP would support him and the dems oppose him just on his party affiliation alone.

 

"What would the world be like without the USA?"

Taxcutter says:
The old USSR.

 

Whats the old saying be careful what you wish for?

 

What people does the US subjugate? Cubans, all of Central America, all of the Middle East, much of South America, the Native Americans.

America does little good in the world and has little interest in doing good

America steals oil and natural resources from many places all the 'Stans, Iraq etc

Saudi is easily the most brutal and backwards regime on earth, easily, and exists only because of American support

Nobody would call America when they have a flood or earthquake since they can't even look after their own citizens when New Orleans or New Jersey gets flooded

 

I also like to pull (*)(*)(*)(*) out of my ass and post it on the internet, especially when I'm bashing someone.

Most most of the time I pull stuff outta my d**k and into a sock... That's why America invented the internet!