Part 8 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Of course. Since all air is, by definition, Earth air. That's no dodge. That is directly confronting the issue.

Correct.

Defining terms is the first thing you should do in any debate. But making your own private interpretation of words is definitely unreasonable. You need a real source for definitions. Guess what that source would be.

 

Quote Posted by Woody on pg. 56 #558 of Part 3

Why is it that Christianity is not accepted worldwide?
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Surely you can't expect all 7 billion people living in the world today to accept a particular religion such as Christianity or any other religion for that matter.

I can tell you though that approx. one-third or 2.3 billion people worldwide are practicing Christians.

There are various reasons why people do not accept the religion, to name a few they are disappointed with God, they have social pressure, they don't like the cost of discipleship and they like to keep their immorality (especially sexual immorality)

Tell me what is your reason for not accepting Christianity?

 

a dictionary.

you said 'real' source.

 

Correct. A real dictionary.

 

And if a dictionary defines air as "an atmosphere"?

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We learn now that NASA makes things up and is unreasonable.

 

Is this another hypothetical, or do you have something to cite?

 

yes, but why dont you look a little harder? you is the dictionary expert. i gotta run.

its there.

 

No, I'm not going to find your source for you. In any case, my point is already proven. The statement "there is no air on the moon" is true according to a perfectly valid definition of the word air. You have to do more than find an alternate definition. You have to show that this definition, provided by two different dictionaries, is invalid. Good luck with that.

 

Quote Posted by OhZone on pg. 57 #565 of Part 3

Why exactly do we need saving from anything?
and Why did your God demand Blood sacrifices?
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We need to be saved from punishment for our sins, for we all have sinned, yes that's right every single last one of us has sinned. (excluding babies and children not of culpable/accountable age)

And so God required animal sacrifices to provide a temporary covering of sins and to foreshadow the perfect and complete sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

But today we no longer offer animal sacrifices. Animal sacrifices have ended because Jesus Christ was the ultimate and perfect sacrifice.
"For God loved the world so much that He gave His one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life."---John 3:16 NLT

 

Quote Posted by OhZone on pg. 57 #565 of Part 3

Killing your own son is about as sick as you can get.
Your dogma in that regard is sick and twisted in itself.
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Well of course if you or any other person were to kill your own son that wouldn't only be sick but it would be murder, a crime, a sin, a punishable offense.

But for God to do it, well now that's a whole different story. Obviously you don't understand it but believe me, we believers understand it full well.

God did it to save the world from its sins, it was a perfect sacrifice for the benefit of all, for Jesus didn't deserve to die for He was sinless and for anyone who believes in this loving deed they will be saved and have eternal life in heaven.

Jesus had paid the sin debt and so the believers will not have to pay for their sins by being punished for them...are you getting the idea/concept behind this?

And the best part of this sacrifice is that our Lord Savior Jesus Christ who was dead for 3 days, resurrected from the dead and came back to life. This was our assurance that we believers will also resurrect from our dead bodies someday and be with our Lord in heaven.

Yes, our Lord loves us so much that He sacrificed Himself for us!

Now tell me, do you think you could kill your son, have him dead for 3 days and then have him resurrected from the dead?...no need to answer cause I already know the answer...it is...NO!

 

Yes, and I have no disagreement with that the problem is that some anti Christian people here have a one way view of that era they blame the Christians for the down fall of Muslim Golden age ignoring the very fact that it's downfall was cause by radical Muslims who saw those progression as very un-Islamic in fact the crusades were mostly busy defending their lands from Muslim invasion in fact after the Europeans were able to defend their lands from Muslim invasion for the next hundreds to thousand of years no Christian or Crusade armies have step foot on Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, Syria or Palestine to impose their will the armies of Napoleon, British and French will leave those Muslims alone to continue with their backward life style and society those countries were fully occupied and rule by Muslims up to now that life style is still in existence. Those Mongols who have conquered Iraq will convert to Islam and they too find it unnecessary to modernize the only modernization Muslim are interested are weapons.

Muslims will chase, expel all those intellectuals out of what is Golden Age of Islam lands.

 

what the f.u.c.ky f.u.c.k ?

 

GOD REQUIRED ANIMAL SACRIFICE TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY COVERING OF SINS

just had to say it again, but louder.

that right there is all the evidence (yes, we love evidence) anyone should ever need to convince them to give religion the rude finger.

 

So, you really want to base your entire argument not on whether the gases are present on the moon or not, but on a dictionary definition? Okay, then does the dictionary definition say that air has to be exclusively on Earth? No? Then I think that alternative definitions that don't include a reference to Earth and the fact that NASA itself says there is air on the moon kind of trumps your weak semantic argument.

 

Which doesn't explain why God required and enjoyed blood sacrifices. Was he a God of war?

 

That is absolutely not what I said. Yes, there are a few molecules of gas floating around.

Yes. If you had read either definition I cited, you would know that it is defined as 1.an oxygen/nitrogen (with minute traces of other gases) mixture that 2.surround the Earth. So the gases around the moon fail to meet two criteria.

 

That is what you said and you even defend that position in the very next portion of your post!

Well, first off, the moon's amosphere does satisfy the first criteria. And once again, just because it surrounds the Earth in a few definitions doesn't mean that air is limited to only the Earth. It's just the most well known air.

 

Quote Posted by GraspingforPeace on pg. 57 #569 of Part 3 in response to WanRen's post

As it turns out humans are not from apes, apes are a distinct species of their own. (Post by WanRen)

Apes are not a Species, they are a taxonomic Family to which we belong to. (Post by GfP in response to WanRen's post above)
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Sorry but you are wrong and WanRen is right.

Here are examples of facts

Fact: Apes are a distinct species of their own
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Fact: Humans are not members of the ape species

Fact: We mortals will die on the moon if we bring just food and water there for there is no air on the moon.

 

Saying things are facts without actually supporting them with evidence doesn't really amount to much other than rhetoric.

Fact: I am a space alien.

See, doesn't really mean much. Saying "apes are a distinct species" doesn't even make logical sense. Do you know what the term species means?

 

Fact: There is no such thing as a space alien but there are aliens living in the USA though...lol

 

Pay attention. I NEVER said there weren't gases present. I said AIR was not present. I swear, it is that hard to distinguish the difference?

Not according to NASA. The previously cited source from nasa.gov says helium, argon, and possibly neon, ammonia, methane and carbon dioxide, sodium and potassium. Nope, not mostly nitrogen and oxygen.

It seems maybe you didn't read back to the post I was commenting on in the first place. Mitt Ryan said "the moon has no air". Taikoo then went on a relentless assault about "So he was wrong and won't admit his falsehoods". This is where I enter to say that he had no falsehood to admit in this case, because what he said is true using the most common and "official" definition of air. So why should a person apologize for making a statement which is true using the common definition of the words used? Sure, if you dig around, you might be able to find a different definition. But that doesn't mean that the original sentence should be retracted. BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

 

If I may say something and I have said this before in which taikoo continue to avoid to answer is that Mitt original post is: Fact: We mortals will die on the moon if we bring just food and water there for there is no air on the moon. Mitt was saying that humans will not survive on the moon because there is no air and taikoo clearly distorted the context, cheery pick it and insist there is air ignoring the fact that Mitt was talking about breathable air corrupting Mitt's statement.

They are busted and have been busted many times.

 

If you were to say, "his belt had a frog on it", then proceeded to tell me that you define frog as "a loop fastened to a belt to hold a tool or weapon" (a perfectly valid definition), then I would be in the wrong to launch into a diatribe about you spouting falsehoods. Just as you are wrong for doing the same to Mitt. The only real difference is that I am using the common usage for "air", whereas you are using a lesser-known, irregular definition of frog. So you are even less justified than I would be in this scenario.

 

How do you not know!
I have been telling you but you are just too blinded with your extreme hatred towards Christians.
Yes, God's chosen people got it wrong that is why He himself came to correct them.

On the contrary I can read the frustration in your post.
You don't even know what Christianity is all about that and now that you are being stumped by true Christians you have no recourse but to go gaga