Part 8 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Quote Posted by dairyair on pg. 62 #602 of Part 3

Again, a red flag should get thrown up when God's chosen people differ with the messiah. Are you claiming they are no longer God's chosen? Or is it your belief someday they will think Jesus is the Jewish messiah?
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Yeah, a red flag a foul on the Jews for rejecting the Messiah Jesus Christ has been thrown up several thousands of years ago, no doubt about that.

You don't even understand the term "God's chosen" as if you think the Jews couldn't do anything wrong just because of that term. Boy, you are still wet between the ears...aren't you?

When Jesus returns in His 2nd coming we will all see His glory unfold.

 

So then abraham had 2 Gods. Because the muslim God is the God of abraham. There is no way you can deny that.

 

I see your christian compassion is shining again. What is it with you and personal attacks?
Others will read your posts and see just how much of your posts simply cut others down and wonder why christianity is something to even consider.
You will send folks away from christianity. I think that goes against what jesus wants.

 

Mitt, is your God the God of abraham or not? Is the muslim God the God of abraham or not.
You keep skipping this.

 

And in the bible didn't abraham have to sacrifice is only son?

 

So the christian God, in your religion, is not the God of Abraham. Then you have a different christian religion that other christians.

 

Don't you have any new questions?

 

christian compassion thing again.
And you now claim that God's chosen people are wrong, they don't have God to worship anymore? Who are they worshipping?

 

You may want to inform all the jewish folks in the world that they somehow went from worshipping the God of Abraham to a different God. So, if not the God of abraham, which God are they now worshipping? And how come they don't know they changed Gods.

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Is Jesus the God of Abraham?

 

Then this proves, You do NOT worship the God of Abraham. Just say it.

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Is it not stated, God is the same today, tomorrow, and forever? Yet you say he got "updated"?

 

Yet you don't answer. Just show more of the christian compassion by calling names.

Do you worship the God of Abraham?

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Your the one who says he will answer tough questions.
But for at least 12 times so far, YOU SKIP ANSWERING THIS.

Do you worship the God of Abraham? It is a Yes or NO answer. Not at all a tough question.

 

Why would I ask new questions? You can't answer this simple one.

 

Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 62 #611 of Part 3 in response to WanRen's post

Scientific proof please. (Post by WanRen)

I'm going to guess that anything that I present is not going to be really acknowledged by you as being genuinely scientific, but, what the hell, let's try. Hopefully the fence-sitters will be convinced.

Firstly: morphology. Human anatomy and the anatomy of modern non-human apes is very similar, and we know this is because all the similar parts develop from the exact same anatomical features.

Secondly: biochemistry. Humans and non-human apes all share identical or nearly identical biochemical features, such as immune proteins (antibodies, self-identification proteins, etc.), hemoglobin, and so on for essentially every single protein you can think of.

Thirdly: genetics. The differences in genetics between humans and modern non-human apes is absolutely tiny, from roughly 1% for chimps to under 5% for orangutans. Such small differences in the genetic code are known to mean that the animals involved are very closely related to one another.

Fourthly: the fossil record. We have a rather large array of ape fossils stretching back to 30 million years ago that clearly show how each of the modern apes (including humans) was derived and roughly how long ago.

Fifthly: susceptibility to the same diseases. Now, there are some diseases out there that are relatively indiscriminate in their ability to infect other animals (rabies, influenza, etc.), while there are other diseases that are very species specific. It turns out that there are very few diseases that are so human specific that they cannot infect non-human apes. Non-human apes can catch the common cold, which no other animals can, for instance. (Post by Akhlut in response to WanRen's post above)
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WanRen asked for proof, all you gave him were observations which one cannot deduce from them that they are the conclusive proof that we humans evolved from apes.

Sorry...but you just can't make that leap...no sireee! You are still missing a lot. All you have is a theory.

Go ask taikoo about theories...he'll explain them to you!

 

Why don't you go ahead and explain what is "missing". My guess on what you think is "missing" is God. Other than that, I doubt you have one clue about what materialistic evidence is missing like you claim it is.

 

Quote Posted by OhZone on pg. 62 #615 of Part 3

Don’t you find it ridiculous that a God would sacrifice himself to himself?
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First off when it comes to God, nothing is ridiculous, miraculous yes, but to say ridiculous no...far from the truth! For nothing is impossible when it comes to Almighty God!

Secondly you are not understanding that implications of the sacrifice. When you finally understand as we Christians do, then and only then will you not view it as being ridiculous.

 

Correction: Secondly you are not understanding the implications of the sacrifice.

 

This isn't even a friggin' response. First off, OhZone wasn't saying that it was impossible, just silly considering the attributes of God. Secondly, "You just have to understand like we do!" is not an answer worthy of such a question. It's a non-sequitur. HOW is he not understanding the implications? What are these implications? Was there no alternative for God to fix the problem he created in the first place other than human sacrifice?

 

Quote Posted by OhZone on pg. 62 #615 of Part 3

What proof is there for the existence of a “heaven”?
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What proof is there for the non-existence of heaven?

Nobody can prove/disprove heaven. It all boils down to having faith. Yes, it's about having faith.

If you don't have faith in God/Jesus/Holy Bible/heaven, well that's your free-will decision and nobody can deny you your free-will decision. And so be it.

 

Do muslims and Jewish folks believe in heaven?

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By ignoring and not answering my question about if you worship the God of Abraham. Then one must conclude that your God is NOT the God of Abraham.

 

Quote Posted by OhZone on pg. 62 #615 of Part 3

Writings in some old book are not proof.
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So, should we view all books written besides the Holy Bible as not being proved to be true? Sorry but you are not going to get the proof you seek.

Again, it boils down to having faith. The first thing a skeptic must do is to read the Holy Bible in its entirety. Then you will have a vivid picture of what our loving caring heavenly Father is all about.

 

When you look under APE....Humans are considered an APE...there is no question of this period.

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Even before the arrival or birth of Jesus Christ it is already written that a Messiah will come. The Christian text which is the Holy Bible wrote about Jesus Christ because the Pharisees refuse to accept and recognize Jesus Christ.

Yes Jesus had a Pharistic education that is why the Pharisees were very surprised how could Jesus a man who was not educated by them suddenly came to them and knew everything about the Torah and it was Jesus knowledge that the Pharisees got stumped that they have no answer except to silence him by having him put to death.

You mean no evidence of the Resurrection? On the contrary the evidence was so over whelming that the Pharisees could not stop the Apostles who all went into hiding after Jesus death and suddenly after Christ resurrection they all become a change individuals no longer were they afraid to die a terrible death, no longer were they afraid of the Pharisees or the Romans, they gave up everything and got nothing material to gain only spiritual. The codified Mishnah I will have to study this more but from what I understand it is authored and controlled by the Pharisees.

Rome only did what the Pharisees requested and insisted Rome to do. Rome did not want to crucified Jesus on the first place because they found no wrong in him that is why Pilate was very clear he wash his hands of Jesus death. And yes you are right the Pharisees can not execute anyone it was part of the autonomous set up between Rome the the conquered Jewish people.

You are the BIGOT! for hating Jesus Christ, for hating Christians and for generalizing all Jews forgetting the fact that Jesus Christ is Jew his Apostles were all Jews and there are many Christian Jews who worship Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the God of all humans Jews and gentiles it was the Pharisees bigotry because they refuse to accept the gentiles as children of God.