~ MOD ALERT ~ Obama Just Gave Amnesty to Illegal Aliens

I'd be okay with this if it were immediate family only. Not some third cousin once removed or some (*)(*)(*)(*).

Let's suppose an "anchor baby" is all grown and joins the military, damn right he shouldn't have to worry about his mom or dad or any siblings who are living here illegally being deported just for being here while serving overseas.

Cousin Jose? Who cares.

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You're wrong.

This IS amnesty from prosecution of federal immigration laws. Now that amnesty can be revoked if they have broken other laws. But it IS amnesty.

 

if you risk your life to protect our freedom and security, you should get special consideration.

like allowing your immediate family members apply for PR status while in the USA.

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there is no such thing as "partial" or "temporary" amnesty.

either you have it or you don't.

its like being "sorta pregnant" or having a "temporary pardon" for murder.

this is NOT amnesty.

 

Having served for 22 years I agree. but you are still wrong when you say this isn't amnesty from prosecution for violating federal immigration laws. It certainly is.

 

One step at a time . That is how the Pyramids were built and the tallest building erected. Please enjoy the nice warm water Mr. Frog. Isn't it so nice now? Truth is not a personal attack. You may feel so because it is rejected by you.

 

You get to know president Obama.

With the current fiasco of his ACA, and having Congress already said that immigration reform is not to be discussed this year, then president Obama in a desperate move to change news, and to deviate the attention, now he comes with this "merciful idea of his".

In a few days, in one of his speeches, or perhaps a Democrat running for president, will note that this administration "did whatever must be done favoring for an immigration reform and that even when everything was against it, this administration gave amnesty to this and that..."

In reality, president Obama never cared about any immigration reform, but he did care about his people, because his first and main laws were favoring gays.

The proof for my words is that he promised an immigration reform as another "priority" in his new administration, and this was six years ago.

On the other hand, the citizenship is granted to immigrants (legal or illegal) serving in the army and (I think) being deployed to a place in conflict. I honor their sacrifice and I think that they do deserve the citizenship.

I also consider that they, the new citizens through serving in the army, are the ones to apply for their families to become US permanent residents, looking forward US citizenship.

However, I strongly think that this president's inititative of a permanent residence granted automatically to the family members is not in agreement with an act of justice, because even the US born citizens married with foreign people must apply for them, and as far as the law is enforced, no spouse and neither familiy member of the US born citizen have a granted "amnesty" to become permanent residents because the marriage. The US born citizen must apply for their acceptance to live legally in the US.

Then, this initiative of president Obama is not just, it discriminates agaist the US born citizens, and this can't happen.

Regardless of being US born citizen, US born citizen serving in the army, US permanent resident serving in the army, illegal immigrant serving in the army, the whole (US born citizens and US citizens granted by their service in the army) must apply for the permanernt residence of spouse and family members. The law must be equal. No permanent residence must be granted without aplication and without passing the current steps already settled by the law.

The current immigration law is great and need no changes.

Actually, no legal resident in the US who came legally to this country, thinks that an immigration reform is needed.

The only ones "demanding" (they don't even ask but they demand it) an immigration reform are the illegal immigrants living inside the US.

Now well, illegal immigrants have no right to be here, and I have no clue by the US president and some members of Congress are listening to their "demands".

To comply with their demands is practically giving the authority to the illegals. Sheesssssss....

 

it would be great if you actually read the article.

NOBODY has been granted automatic PR status!!!!!!

all that has been granted is the ability to apply for PR status while in American territory.

that's it.

all of them, every single one, might still be deported.

 

Well I am sure they don't care how you feel either. Meanwhile- I think doing good things for our troops is a good thing. Sorry you don't feel that way.

Well then you better get started on changing that- I think we have allowed non-citizens to be part of our military since the Revolutionary War.

 

I am a U.S. citizen and I think immigration reform is highly needed.

I think that both parties- Republicans and Democrats have used the immigration issue for political points and neither side wants a real comprehensive immigration reform- because Republicans use the immigration issue to create boogey men and scare old white guys and Democrats use the issue to scare recent immigrant citizens.

Meanwhile, I think preventing the deportation of family members of American soldiers is the right thing to do.

 

They do it to enlarge their VOTE counts.

 

1. How an illegal alien feels is about aw relevant as how the Japs who invaded pearl Harbor felt.

2. If Obama really wanted to do "good things for our troops" he would fix the pitiful state of affairs in the VA, instead of allowing it to worsen, not by engaging in this phony scam.

3. Time to have our military be citizens only. Anything else seems risky.

 

Some of Obamas family is here illegally. Maybe that is why he is so hot to grant amnesty to illegals.

 

Upon what do you base that statement ?

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What is this "MOD ALERT" thing ? What does that mean ?

 

No 'Japs' invaded Pearl Harbor. Meanwhile, what I care about is what our American soldiers feel.

The VA claims issue is a scandal and yes that should be a priority. However, the INS doesn't process VA claims, so this action helps our soldiers without affecting the fixes to the VA processing.

As I pointed out- our military has been open to non-citizens since the Revolutionary War- why is 'anything else' more risky now than it was during the Civil War or World War 2?

 

This statement: "Meanwhile, I think preventing the deportation of family members of American soldiers is the right thing to do."

The basis for my opinion is that I think this is simple solution to support American troops.

 

1. No Japs invaded Pearl Harbor ? Who do you think it was ? Eskimos ?

2. This isn't to help soldiers. It's a phony ploy designed to rake in some more VOTES.

3. I didn't say it's more risky now than before, you said that.

 

No- you claimed what I said was a lie.

Apparently you don't even consider what you said to be factual.

You can't even support your own opinion. Really- if I just respond to each of your posts with "That is a lie!"- even if you accidentally post the truth- that is an acceptable way to post?

Please do report me- I am sure that your reports are a constant source of amusement to the moderators.

 

Down with Amnesty!!! Deport them back to MEXICO.. Actually, to save money, deport them back to the closest Mexican state - California!!!

 

a) Seriously read the history of the attack on Pearl Harbor.
b) Your opinion is noted, however, this will help our troops, regardless of the intent.
c) You think after 200 years of non-citizens fighting our wars on behalf of the United States, that we should change the policy because you think that it is 'too risky'.

What examples of the past 200 years of non-citizens fighting for America led you to that conclusion?

 

While simultaneously ignoring THIS >>

Harms of Immigration

1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

2. Wage reduction.

3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($40 Billion year).

5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

6. Increased crime.

7. Increased traffic congestion.

8. Increased pollution.

9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

11. Overcrowding in government offices.

12. Overcrowding in schools.

13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

14. Cultural erosion.

15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)

16. Introduction of harmful diseases

 

Yes- I am ignoring irrelevant anti-immigration issues.

 

Yes, I said that claimed what you said was a lie. And I say it again now.

And yes, don't consider what I said to be factual. I said that before, and I say that again now too.

Giving opinions is an acceptable way to post, yes, as well as stating facts. You really have to ask that ? You sound like a brand new rookie in this forum.

As for reporting your invalid report, I already reported it.

Good day!

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That's a LIE (in my opinion, because I think you are smarter than that)

 

a) Read it for what ? Would you feel better if I said the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor ?

b) It is noted that it is noted.

c) Yes. No examples did. But that doesn't mean there aren't quite a few if we took the time and trouble to look them up/

 

can we get back to how Obama has NOT given amnesty to anyone?

thanks.

 

Right- Obama's acted to benefit our troops by giving some protection to family members from deportation.

 

its the right thing to do.

and remember, these folks can still get deported, so its FAR from "amnesty".