How Talk Radio and Fox News Brainwashed My Dad

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  1. bwk

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    No, you have it all wrong. Religion, like Limbaugh, have swayed people by the millions. Limbaugh is just another religion for the many. They are easily sucked in.
     
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    It is good to be flexible. I would not be surprised to hear you are unable to stand up on your own.
     
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    Not getting sucked in, is the best indicator as to just how well you can stand up on your own.
     
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    Yep, sounds like yer Dad was already there. Just needed someone to help him find the words and how to use them.

    Please, offer him my congrats.
     
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    If you believe the big business liars and conglomerates who manufacture the Arbitron stats that millions still listen to Limbaugh, I feel sorry for you. Especially in an age where in America virtually everything in commercial, mainstream news, on radio and TV, is a lie or merely spin, to conceive that ratings too are nothing short of a big fat lie, is hardly a stretch of the imagination.

    To think that a spokesman at anti-war rallies, and a mainstream radio icon such as Mike Malloy (who claimed for 10 years Bush-Cheney should be impeached or tried for Iraq war crimes) could display such ignorance about Syria as recently as last Monday, saying, "I don't know what is going on there," and blaming the whole thing on religion, is a complete farce. And it just shows you what a complete sham the whole radio and TV "publicly owned airwaves" broadcast medium is. So - don't think I am being partisan.

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    The damage has already been achieved by Limbaugh. It doesn't matter what I or you believe. When the poison of a cult mind infiltrates a population, it's almost impossible to let it go. His work is completed.

    By the way, one only needs to look at the mountain of evidence against Bush/Cheney for their consistent barrage of misinformation/lack of/ignoring real information, without Mike Malloys input, to draw a conclusion about those two war mongers. They wanted it, and they got it. Every scrap of evidence shows that.
     
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    I think you are probably wrong. Rush and his ilk were discredited so many years ago by Al Frankens popular book, "Limbaugh is a Fat Idiot" (1996) and Michael Moore "Stupid White Men" (2004) plus the rejection of the NeoConservatives by the voters in two stolens elections. These Right Wing talk radio low lifes are so irrelevant but kept alive on the vine by media megalith Clear Channel like Hannity who gets no audience or Beck who is never taken seriously anyway crying and slobbering all over himself.

    There are too many serious issues on the minds of Americans to be consumed by such triviality as radio or TV "cult of personality" anymore. I think that trend died in the 90's along with Bill and Hillarys popularity when they assasinated their own careers by making stupid personal decisions.The media has to keep certain personages alive thru constant Hollywood worship and fixed computer vote machines like Arnold Swarzenegger. People barely have time to look at articles about Ed Snowden NSA spying, which BTW read like he is talking from a script or interviewing from a cue card, (esp. when wiretapping issues were already exposed in 2002 released information regarding Project Eschelon and again in 2005 NYT election delayed NSA scandal)


    There are just too many serious issues in the lives of Americans for them to be concerned or waste energy on Religion in politics, (the Christian Right) what with the economy being so FUBAR, the many community based political issues popping up: school shootings, local provinces going bust thru mismanagement, (the always bad mouthed Detroit and Chicago by national media for example), medical marijuana, marriage and pay equality, social, or "upward" mobility (to the extent that its posssible) to gain access to better jobs and housing (etc.) Not to mention the national issues: war, extreme poverty, healthcare, govmnt spending and accountability and so on.

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    When Ronald Reagan destroyed the U.S. ecocomy for 12 long years (with the help of Bush Sr.) by making such staggering inflation "the new normal" they basically did it on purpose. By making the average family work themselves to death, and by having to spend all their available energy "covering their arse" as it were, they intentionally insured the Political Elites and Power Brokers a buffer against any possibility of organization or mass activism. It was intentional on their part to make mass consumer inflation and price gouging a constant fixture of American life, for the purpose of social control.


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    A very interesting take. I would agree with most of what you have to say. However, I still think Rush carries an awful lot of weight. I still believe he's Boehners messiah and still looks to Rush for his daily feedings of crap.
     
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    By holding this position, there is no way to defend yourself from the accusation that you have been sucked in by Obama.

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    You are uneducated on the subject. Rush is no fan of Boehner's.
     
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    No, not uneducated on the subject. Pay attention and read my post again. I never said Rush was a fan of Boehner.
     
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    I sometimes listen to Monica Perez at her website if the topic is good. I listen to Canadian radio online as well. I think the best radio commentators are online only. I like Paul Craig Roberts, the guys from Project Censored, John Kozy, and Graeme McQueen. They sometimes appear on this show. Click here for a sample.

    http://prn.fm/category/archives/progressive-radio-news-hour/

    http://progressiveradionewshour.podbean.com/

    also see here for more downloads

    http://radio4all.net/
     
  12. Monster Zero

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    Is It Possible That Activists Were Running an Infiltrated U.S. Govmnt PsyOp without Knowing It ???

    I wonder if you think that Snowden could have been a unwitting dupe or some type of PSYOP as described on the Monica Perez radio show.

    Anonymous, Wikileaks, and Statfor hacktivists are FBI/CIA stings and unwitting dupes being set up by the U.S. govmnt, fed disinfo as well.


    I've listed three sources and viewpoints.

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    Psy-Ops: They’re Here, They’re Real – Deal With It! Podcast of June 30 Show

    Monica Perez radio show podcast (very good!) and good work on JFK, and Syria issues as well.

    http://themonicaperezshow.com/psy-ops-theyre-here-theyre-real-deal-with-it-podcast-of-june-30-show/

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    [video=youtube;HA1EeYOaACE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1EeYOaACE[/video]


    FAKE AND FAKER

    Julian Assange (Wikileaks) and Edward Snowden are NWO con-men!


    Being used as a unwitting dupes of NWO psyops and distributors of disinfo


    http://www.tomatobubble.com/snowden_fake.html

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    Some observations of mine:

    1. Naomi Wolf and others noticed in their articles that Snowden appeared to be reading from talking points or a script.

    2. Snowden/Greenwald could been set up as a sting, or fed documents in the same fashion as the FBI gave info, hacking techniques and passwords to Anonymous, Aaron Swartz, Jeremy Hammond, (etc.) For example, HBGary emails stated that the Greenwald would be targeted with phony documents to discredit the popular, painstakingly accurate journalist and Wikileaks supporter.

    3. Snowden says nothing new and like the infiltrated Wikileaks organization was fed garbage information, not top secret level classified material, many useless diplomatic cables, old news about Iraq/Afghanistan war crimes, and casualties, and old torture memo information released a half dozen years beforehand by liberal blogs and websites. Like Snowden, Wikileaks was useful in educating the public - like the Guardian news releases - (the NYT version of Wikileaks was heavily redacted and useless, even Assange stated he would not use the NYT anymore) and very helpful bringing humanitarian and anti-war issues to the fore front of news coverage and helped to cement American public opinion against U.S. military intervention so it was a success, that is why I do not think Assange is a CIA agent himself like websites and authors Webster Tarpley, Prison Planet, Veterans Today, Gordon Duff or KPFKs Dave Emory have alleged.But like the Bradley Manning, Anonymous, Stratfor, Jeremy Hammond, Aaron Swartz, Barret Brown affair, the FBI/CIA set up a sting, ran a PSYOP or disinfo documents to influence international events once the initial Wikileaks and NSA spying revelations were released.
     
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    There was an "Impeach Obama" booth in fron of the post office on Friday. It was a Tea Party group. It had a poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache on the front of it. It said - "change we can believe in."




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    Today from Drudge

    Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations,

    says his mission’s accomplished


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fc36de-6c1c-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html

    OO -PSY!

    Someone in high places at the CIA

    decided to put the Snowden PSYOP

    to bed after hearing the Monica Perez podcast,

    I posted.

    Busted!
    :mrgreen::peace:
     
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    Why was Mike Malloy reading an article from Veterans Today live on the air? Doesn’t he know that Veterans Today is a loony site with over half a dozen Birther articles on it, and blames the Sandy Hook shootings on Israel, and hosts many kooky, crank,, fake news reporters on it? Take the author James Fetzer who is co-editor, he was talking Holocaust Denier crappola as recently as August 2013 on his radio show, and that the planes who crashed into the towers on 9/11 were holograms, so he is a fake 9/11 Truther as well. Look closely at the headlines in the margins on Veterans Today they blame everything on the Jews!Check your sources better!

    Whats with all this commercial media partisanship, lies, and criminality by the talking heads on TV and radio?

    It is violation of Geneva to use the mass media to plant lies and fake information to incite wars of aggression on sovereign states.

    But theres a lot of lying Liberal Democrats in the broadcast media who want to cover up the fact that war crimes committed by the United States Government are a bi-partisan effort, done by both parties.





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    Conservatives are always talking about "assuming responsibility. Well - assume some responsibility for divding the nation, empty rhetoric, and some of those other extreme ideas floating around.
     
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    Imo, when 19 Arabs of a radical Islam movement are able to take down the financial capital of the world, (while almost sinking a US destroyer months earlier, and recently destroying 6 AV8 Harrier jets, and assassinating a US ambassador), and then people of the attacked nation refuse to recognize the conflict with Islamic jihadists, and instead try to spread conspiracy theories that the attacked nation's own government was responsible for the attacks, THAT IS DIVISIVE. And imo, it's either enemy propaganda, or completely misled traitors.
     
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    I'll be just a tad more gentle and say that Rush is nothing more then a fat tub of vanilla pudding. :)
     
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    Another regular Progressive radio contributor exposes humself as an embedded limited hangout with acess to intel agencies COINCIDENTALLY but decided to BOYCOTT UK SYRIA PEACE

    Jeremy Scahill shows true PSYOP colors ...he kind of looked like a guy from BLACKWATER ... tall and scruffy ... Scahill sides with Al Queda murderers hired by Obama to remove Assad

    hello, I'm the CIA on your "public" radio stations
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    ‘Investigative Journalist’ Scahill Takes Swipe at Mother Agnes

    "Jeremy Scahill, the “investigative journalist” who once publicly expressed his belief in the official 9/11 story, says he won’t take part in an international antiwar conference scheduled for later this month if he has to share the same platform with Syrian nun Mother Agnes."

    “I’ve informed organizers of [MENTION=56417]stw[/MENTION]uk that I will not participate in their conference if Mother Agnes is on the platform,” Scahill tweetetd on Friday.

    "the Stop the War Coalition, which will hold the all-day conference in London on November 30, and which had apparently extended an invitation for Mother Agnes to speak, along with roughly a dozen or so other speakers."


    http://richardedmondson.net/2013/11/17/investigative-journalist-scahill-takes-swipe-at-mother-agnes/


    Syrian Nun Seen as Threat

    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread...6/syrian-nun-seen-as-threat-to-war-resistance
     
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    So because 3,000 Americans died on 9/11, that gives the U.S.Government the right to kill 2 million Iraqis and countless others in Afghan/Pakistan/Syria/Yemen/Sudan/Iran or wherever U.S. special forces do covert ops?
     
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    I don't buy those casualty numbers. Sorry. There is no column for Iraqis killed by terrorists and/or jihadists. All casualties are assigned to US forces. Except now they can't be, because we aren't there, and they are still occurring (and in greater numbers). So until I see some columns that include the estimates of those killed by US action, and those killed by terrorists, I don't buy them for a millisecond.
     
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    All Americas problems stem from the fact this country cannot get its war policy under control. The DoD needs to be severely slashed.

    So all the fear, poverty, homelessness, budget deficits, mass shootings, NSA spying, CIA high crimes, much of the mental illness, big government waste, fraud and abuse, poor health care delivery, whole populations on dangerous psychological medication that causes suicides, (like many of the issues conservatives care about) are all due to the war machine being out of control. You read my posts, I am always hammering the media hosts and such for broadcasting inaccuracy about American foreign policy on a daily regularity, but how can you fix foreign policy when the mass media lie about it on a daily basis, even the Left wing hosts? The casualties in Syria in all the U.S. media are provided by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a one man operation run by a Arabic man in a UK tailor shop, and isn't that just a little too tidy? A bit too cliche even for American propaganda standards, aye?

    If you don't agree with the Lancet medical journal estimates of Iraq war casualties and the estimates of successive years of bloodshed, fine. You can try using the Iraqi counts from http://icasualties.org/ or http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq. But don't give me these BS Iraqi casualty counts from the government like Wikileaks or at Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Iraq_war 66,081 civilian deaths or even these 40,000 dead counts you see on TV thats all lies. But that is why Wikipedia was created, to erase and rewrite history for the U.S. government.
     
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    Gosh Golly

    Did I hear it correctly thru the grapevine that Rush Limbaugh came out and opposed the war in Syria ???


    That is remarkable - considering that is farther than his Democrat Party equivalent Mike Malloy went!

    (in his usual capacity as a pit-bull screaming for the defense of Democrats)

    But like the Democrat radio hosts, the GOP ones eat their own, (of the grass roots.)
    Mike Malloy silenced his callers (one banned from the show nick-named "Blue") who complained about Obama war crimes in Libya and Syria.

    Of course, on the GOP side of the coin of the radio game, they also eat their own young didn't the radio hosts all fall silent when the grass roots allegations of 2012 Primary vote rigging came forward and the reluctance to count the Ron Paul delegates?


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    Yeah -

    "The terrorists want to take away our freedoms," :roll:

    and judging by the content of the broadcast media, they won.
     

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