9/11 Science Club! What Are Specific Heat and Heat-Energy Content?

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  1. n0spam

    n0spam New Member

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    and WHY should it not behave as a HOLLOW POINT
    the nose of the aircraft is hollow, what magic prevents it
    from behaving exactly like a projectile fired from a rifle?
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    The nose was also pressurized and while it quite likely did deform,it still like a rifle bullet wouldn't have slowed down,until
    INSIDE,like a bullet
     
  3. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    :eyepopping:

    Are you suggesting that an airplane has a hollowed out shape in it's nose?!
     
  4. n0spam

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    nose_radar.jpg
    Nose of the aircraft carries the RADAR, its a hollow fiberglass shell with the RADAR
    emitter at the back of the hollow space, also the cockpit is in front of the aircraft and
    it is also a hollow space, the fact is, the nose of the airline should have crushed against
    the side of the tower, sending a shower of aircraft bits to the street, and if there was
    enough KE left over after that, the rest of the aircraft may have penetrated some distance
    but the probability of complete penetration is miniscule.
     
  5. Hannibal

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    You are ignoring Newton's second law in this scenario, also.
    Bullets work.
     
  6. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Notice the bulkhead behind the radar?

    THAT"S not hollow
     
  7. n0spam

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    and behind that the hollow cockpit,
    any argument that alleges "FLT175" should not have been
    observed slowing down visibly in the process of penetrating
    the WTC tower wall, is bogus! It would require energy to
    penetrate the wall, and also energy to shred the aircraft on the way in.
    and the ONLY energy that the aircraft had to give was its forward motion.
    so the proponents of the theory that "FLT175" could penetrate the wall
    with virtually no expenditure of energy are wrong.
     
  8. Hannibal

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    Force equals mass times acceleration.

    Do the math.
     
  9. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    You have numbers for this n0spam? Do you have math showing the perimeter columns in that area were enough to visibly show the aircraft slowing down upon impact?
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No kid,behind that the main structural support for the airliner...'hollow cockpit'...geeze,it's like you're not even trying anymore..
     
  11. Kokomojojo

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    knock yourself out!

    WTC1&2 [[1] were made out of high-strength low-alloy ( HSLA ) steel containing copper. The exterior columns were made of 65,000-100,000psi steel.

    they always use airplanes to slice steel up


    [​IMG]


    see how easy it is

    slices through steel like hot knife through butter!
     
  12. LogicallyYours

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    Sooooooooooooooo.....the pumpkin shot thru both side of a boat or a van....that's impossible...it was hoaxed too, right?

    explain why the same physics do not come into play with regards to the planes crashing into the WTC?
     
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    Please reference your source for this pumpkin shot demo?
     
  14. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    No problem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=didpjwBgFqY

    Holy crap! That pumpkin MUST have been made of materials STRONGER than metal?

    :omg:
     
  15. Gamolon

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    So you're suggesting that the entire descending upper section hit the vertical columns only?

    :omg:
     
  16. Kokomojojo

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    comprehension issues?

    this was about the plane slicing through the perimeter columns like butter and with no damage.to itself no giant fuel burst zippo!

    [​IMG]

    Just like in sci fi.

    You seem to think that is real theres the information you need to do the math like that would actually ever happen. LOL
     
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    The link you provided only showed the pumpkin penetrating the one side
    there was no indication that the pumpkin penetrated all the way through
    the vehicle. Note that the hole was NOT exactly pumpkin shaped and
    there was significant tearing of the door panel. It is highly likely that the
    pumpkin was completely destroyed after making that hole.

    I still challenge the notion that two aircraft could penetrate completely
    not leaving a tail section even protruding a matter of a few centimeters
    outside the hole. and producing the neat cartoon like cut-outs that were done.

    this goes way beyond "incredulity" into total improbability.
     
  18. LogicallyYours

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    You can "challenge" all you want but then you have to admit, you think the "physics" are different. How is that so? You've lost this argument the min you challenged.
     
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    You can SEE it went through both doors :roll:
    And you need to STOP saying the holes made were 'neat cartoon like cutouts'...it's being dishonest,given the pictures of the towers after the impacts
     
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    Weird that Koko doesn't use this footage from the same mythbusters episode.

    [​IMG]

    I wonder why he left that out when he made his animated GIF?
     
  22. Kokomojojo

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    maybe because the point being made was the opening up of the rear of the ball

    Besides I dont see a ping pong ball in there anywhere do you.

    [​IMG]

    in yours you can see the compressed air from the tube open and blow it up. the tube is too close to be a valid test.

    [​IMG]

    The bad thing about myth busters is they for the most part really do not understand what they are doing.

    However for the sake of an argument why dont you explain the principal as to why a ping pong ball can go through those objects yet a heavy bullet cant go through steel.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Or maybe next time hijackers will fly ping pong balls in the next false flag.
     
  23. Fangbeer

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    Gosh! Maybe it's another conspiracy! Let me guess: Mythbusters knew you were going to use their footage in an animated GIF so they used CGI in the very SAME EPISODE to make it look like a supersonic pingpong ball could make a perfect circle in a ham skin!

    Or...maybe you didn't watch the show, and didn't realize that the two images were taken of ping pong balls moving a different velocities...
     
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    Whooooooops!
     
  25. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so you think the ***** at myth busters being dumb asses is a conspiracy?

    I pointed out that I see no ping pong ball. I made NO OTHER CLAIM so stop posting bull(*)(*)(*)(*) strawman claims. Even a total dumb ass knows that the same episode is not synonymous with the same clip DUH So who is your target audience?

    In both cases in the gif I posted you can actually see a ping pong ball. I see no ping pong ball in your GIF.

    answer the question:

    explain the principal as to why a ping pong ball can go through those objects yet a high speed heavy lead bullet fails to penetrate much less go through steel.
     

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