Sarah Palin For President In 2016 Part II

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, Hillary should drop out cause of using a Private email account but Palin should run, yeah right

    "Palin used six email accounts as governor"

    http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2...overnor-palin/

    "The just-released emails include messages to and from Palin’s gov.sarah and gov.palin Yahoo accounts. Though, according to the Los Angeles Times, they were included only when a recipient or sender was using official state email. Any email about state business for which both parties were using private addresses is missing from the emails the state released. Emails sent to private accounts often dealt with state business, the released records show, in contravention of Spencer’s request to keep state business on a state address."

    "Sarah Palin emails released from time as governor - but many withheld or redacted"
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sarah-pa...-or-redacted/c

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    You missed, or misread, the central premise of my argument. I have not made any claim in relation to restricting freedom of religion or religious beliefs.

    There is a difference between having a religious belief and forcing that religious belief on others.

    Palin wants to force her religious beliefs on others through law. Religious beliefs such as "abortion is bad".

    I do not disqualify Palin on the basis that she is a fundamentalist Christian. I disqualify Palin on the basis that she wants to force her religious beliefs on others through law.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because you claim the moon is made of green cheese does not make it true. You are like the naked claim king. Do you ever give support for anything you say ? "That's ludicrous, That's stupid, That's idiotic, and so on" Have you no material or rational or valid arguments to back up what you say ?

    I compared the risk of harm from walking to risk of harm from terrorism. Both can cause harm or death.

    Is it the word "terrorism" that would affect you directly or being harmed in a terrorist act that would affect you. Death is death regardless of whether it comes from walking or from terrorism.

    The fact of the matter is that at present, right here in the USA, chances of harm or death from walking are 400 times greater than the chances of harm from terrorism. Do you drive a car ? thousands of times greater risk of harm or death.

    If you want to hide under a chair cowering and give up your rights and freedoms over some big scary risk of harm that is thousands of times less than driving your car ... go ahead.

    Just do not call me ludicrous for not buying into your fantasy that the boogieman is around every corner.
     
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    What an idiotic clown. Sarah talking rights about freedoms like she give a hoot about any rights and freedoms other than the ones she agrees with

    What a pathetic piece of garbage.

    Like what rights and freedoms Sarah? .. freedom to smoke pot ? freedom to not be discriminated against because of your sexual preference ? freedom of consensual adults to have sex for money ? Freedom of a woman do have reproductive control over her own body? Privacy rights ? Freedom to not be arbitrarily detained and searched ?

    Then she goes on about net neutrality ?? She is supporting an Oligopolies right to take advantage of people in the guise of capitalism.
    Then she talks about "freedom of expression/speech" in relation to net neutrality. The whole point of net neutrality is to stop ISP's from favoring big companies which has the effect of denying freedom of speech by allowing some to be more easily heard than others. What an idiot.

    Thanks for posting yet another example of what a pathetic hypocrite Sarah Palin is.
     
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    Whew !!! , thank god... even Bozo the clown would be better than Sarah (you can see Russia from Alaska) Palin.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    Gratuitous misogynistic insult.
    Well you expect her to speak about rights and freedoms that she does not agree with? Which of those rights do you not agree with?
    The right to bear arms? The right to free speech?
    Another gratuitous misogynistic insult.
    Where in the Constitution does it say you have the right to get high, not be discriminated against for having sex with men, have sex with prostitutes, kill unborn children, and have all of those actions kept secret between individuals and their government sponsored healthcare provider and not have the government bother people who are high and act suspiciously? Try passing an amendment to the Constitution with those things and see how far it goes. Our society should have some standards, you set the bar really low. That's a real 21st Century notion that women should be sold for sex and their babies should be snuffed if no birth control was used. Now that's a war on women. You're ideas are setting women's rights back 2000 years.
    I didn't hear her say the word oligopoly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Government regulation of a free exercise of the internet is just another tax and a power grab by the powerful politicians. If a company pays more for better service, they have the right to do that. People do it every day under capitalism.
    I have yet to hear of one complaint of an ISP denying anyone freedom of speech. The big companies pay more for better service. Some people also pay more for better phone service. Should we deny people the right to have better phones than other people?
    How is she a hypocrite for standing up for the rights enumerated in the Constitution, but not the nonexistent rights you propose?
     
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    340 million Americans walk every day X number of people died from walking = 0%
    Number of Americans held hostage by ISIS X number of Americans killed by ISIS = 100%

    I think your odds of being killed by ISIS is much higher.
     
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    I have a religious belief against abortion, but it is based on science. Life begins at conception and in this country, you have a right to life. You are the one advocating taking away a person's right to life because of your religious beliefs or lack thereof.
     
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    Big whoop. Did she break the law? Many government documents are redacted to protect other people's privacy or for other security reasons.

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    I did not say that.
     
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    Sure there is. I also will not get sucked into an ignorant symantec argument about when life begins. I will not engage in an equally superfluous debate about how many cells one must have before they are human. Can you tell me how many cells one must have before being considered human? How many weeks does it take to become a fetus? How many weeks into gestation should abortions be allowed?

    Do you believe in The Enlightenment and the founding fathers notion of a right to life?
     
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    same is true of Clinton.... that is my point...
     
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    listen to what she thought about free speech, she thinks people should not be able to criticize others speech, in other words she wants to take away the free speech rights of those that disagree with her

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/10/palin-fears-med/

    "Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said."
     
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    No, the same is not true of Clinton because she broke several laws. The law requires her to use a government email, she didn't. The law requires her not to take government secrets, she did. By having her emails on her private server in her home, she took government secrets which is a felony.
     
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    she did not break any laws and the actions were the same, your just trying to say it was illegal for one to do it and not the other.... both had private email accounts, Palin had six of them....

    if that is your reason for giving Palin a pass, then it's not really about the actions that you care about.... it's all partisan

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    That is one possibility!

    I personally am genuinely worried about a serious devaluation of the USA Dollar within five to ten years.


    "George Soros says that America must give up the dollar and accept world currency."

    http://www.examiner.com/article/geo...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

    Nearly thirty percent of the economies of the USA and Canada is volunteerism in some form.

    Governor Palin represents a segment of the population of North America that tend to be involved in volunteerism.


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7701455/

    North American churches should each have their own currency!

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    I am of the belief that each large church in North America should discuss the printing up of their own church currency unit such as has been done by a group of socially active citizens in Calgary, Canada with their CalgaryDollars.ca

    Here is a good article on how important local currencies were during the Great Depression:

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

    A "Sarah Palin Volunteerism Hour" could be printed up by the millions.... .by the billions..... and even by the trillions if the demand for them is there........... they could have a stabilizing effect on the USA dollar.......and could liven up, focus and organize that volunteerism segment of our economies!?

    In 1994 I found out that President Lincoln had initiated a brilliant monetary policy that saved American taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments. Since then I have been struggling ....(and praying).....to think of ways in which this information could be applied in such a way that Kevin O'Leary, and the Wall Street Dragons and Sharks were not alarmed by what was happening.

    For the life of me I cannot see any real way in which a "Sarah Palin Volunteerism Hour" (or dollar) would alarm Kevin O'Leary???????????

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87l4512Q4rY
    Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America
     
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    Did Sarah announce yet?

    I'm so excited I hope she runs!!

    Her best bet for a running mate is Michelle Bachmann I do hope she is asked to complete the ticket!!

    Go Sarah, Go Sarah, Go Sarah, Go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Palin/Bachmann 2016... because America needs to learn how to laugh again! ...(I think it's a perfect campaign slogan and I'm gonna offer it up to her if she decides to run)
     
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    Blah Blah Blah.... Just like Palin, when you have no refutation - Demonize

    I justified my comments in relation to Palin and you have no refutation other than absurd, nonsensical rhetoric.

    What poor understanding of the Constitution. Just terrible. Do you really think if its not in the Constitution we can pass any law is a legitimate argument for making law ?

    It is up to the Government to justify the laws it passes. Holy doodle.
    As per abortion you have already proven you have no clue about that debate.
     
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    You have presented no science and I already showed you that there is no consensus among experts.

    You making an unsupported claim does not make it true. Where is the "Science" you speak of ?

    It is fallacy (Assumed Premise) to claim the zygote is a person when you have not even given any justification, never mind proven, that claim.
     
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    Is it not hypocritical ? She is able to criticize as a politician but the media cannot.

    I will give Palin one point. "IF" we were in a situation where the vast majority of the media was uncritical of one candidate and fully supportive of the other then Palin might have a stump to stand on. That is not even close to being the case.
     
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    Quit making broad claims with no support. I gave you a link with 5 of the main perspectives and each is based in Science.

    Only one of those perspectives claims that conception is the start and scientists are having doubts about that claim.

    You did not even bother to address or even discuss these perspectives or any science, never mind refute them.

    You did not give any support for your claim. I have given more support for your claim than you have provided.
    You are so ignorant of the debate it hurts and what is worse is that I even explained this too you already.

    There are things that do not have any human cells that are considered human. Human sperm is human ... Human feces is human

    Go educate yourself in the difference between a descriptive adjective and a noun and stop making broad unsupported claims about things you do not understand.
     
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    Ahhh, the mere mention of Sarah Palin's name sends moonbat liberals into an insane feeding frenzy, losing what little self control they have left. I've got to take the time and review the posts. I better check and make sure my popcorn stash is up to snuff.:roflol:
     
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    The law went into effect in 2009. It doesn't apply to the Alaska governor or any other governor, it does apply to the Sec of State.

    Taking classified information home has always been a felony. It was when I was in the USAF 30 years ago, it still is today.

    Having classified emails at a server in your home is no different than printing a copy and taking it home. You can't do that.

    Palin was not accused of possessing any classified documents that I am aware of.
     
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    She quit. Simple as that. It was certainly best for Alaska though. Don't give me that "the media was mean to her" garbage. You have to deal with the media being mean if you're gonna be governor. If you can't, you aren't fit to hold the office. Perhaps she realized this. Regardless, she won the governorship of Alaska, and quit on them. whatever excuse you try to make for her, she freakin quit.
     
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    That's pretty funny when I am defending rights enumerated that you want to eliminate and you are
    making up rights that have no basis in law.

    I would say that if you are the one being aborted that would constitute, "acts only as are injurious to others."
     
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    The fact that life begins at conception is settled science and I don't have to provide proof of the obvious to a science denier.
     

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