Part 31 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity>>MOD WARNING<<

That's your opinion/belief, however I don't share the same opinion/belief as you do. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the life of Sargon was lifted from the Moses story?...stop and think about that!

The story was indeed historical. Every country has its own national history...a record of events leading to the nation's independence. The book of Exodus records Israel's national history, recounting the earliest years of the nation and of God covenant with them.

Exodus takes its name from the main event of the book: the Israelites' deliverance from slavery in Egypt. The book begins with a short account of how the Israelites became slaves in Egypt. The focus then shifts to the birth and life of Moses, God's chosen leader for Israel. From a burning bush in the Sinai desert, God called Moses to return to his homeland of Egypt and lead the Israelites to freedom.

But Pharoah refused to free the Israelites and set in motion God's ten devastating plagues upon Egypt. The final plague not only changed Pharoah's mind but became a memorial of God's deliverance, celebrated in the observance of Passover. Once set free, the Israelites traveled to the wilderness of Sinai to worship God.

But Pharoah chased the Israelites to the Red Sea, where God displayed His power of parting the sea for the Israelites to cross and then closing it over the pursuing Egyptians.

The Israelites were then free to travel to Mount Sinai. There God established His covenant with them, giving them the Ten Commandments and plans for the Tabernacle. After the Israelites constructed the Tabernacle, God filled it with His glory, signifying His presence with them.---NLT

And so you see my dear Margot2 the story was very much a true historical event in the history of the Israelites.

Yes, they all naturally occurred under God's divine commands.

Except the defeat that occurred at the hands of Almighty God! Like I mentioned earlier I heard they were too embarrassed to record the Moses story in their history accounts.

 

Sorry bud, I didn't say dinosaurs are theory, I know they are factual that they lived, we have their bones to prove it, however the theory I was expressing was the theory that you believe the earth and dinosaurs existed millions of years before man...that bud is just a theory!...it's just your opinion, you have no facts.

 

This post could qualify as a fossil. I asked you countless times to not quote me in ancient posts. However you like it when you irritate me doncha? So much for god love preachy stuff eh? I have to ask though, tell us, (this is gonna be great!) tell us....how old are the dinosaurs? and how did you calculate that?

 

Ok, that makes you an agnostic.

Now you're not being consistent as an agnostic, you are sounding like an atheist now saying "until presented with empirical verifiable evidence, I will not believe in one" This is another way of saying you don't believe God exists which is not suppose to be the view of agnostics.

No doubt you are confused in what your belief system is. Agnosticism argues that God&#8217;s existence cannot be proven or unproven, that it is impossible to know whether or not God exists. In this, agnosticism is correct. God&#8217;s existence cannot be empirically proven or disproven.

So why are you saying until you are presented with empirical verifiable evidence you will not believe in God when you suppose to know being an agnostic that you will never get empirical verifiable evidence to prove or disprove the existence of God?...remember you said you don't know if God exists or not but now you're making another statement that you don't believe God exists because you haven't been presented with empirical verifiable evidence...yes, you no doubt are confused about your belief system.

One last thought here, for the sake of argument, let&#8217;s throw out the clear and undeniable evidences of God&#8217;s existence. If we put the positions of theism and agnosticism on equal footing, which makes the most &#8220;sense&#8221; to believe in regards to the possibility of life after death? If there is no God, theists and agnostics alike all simply cease to exist when they die. If there is a God, both theists and agnostics will have someone to answer to when they die. From this perspective, it definitely makes more &#8220;sense&#8221; to be a theist than an agnostic. If neither position can be proven or disproven, it seems wise to make every effort to thoroughly examine the position that may have an infinitely and eternally more desirable end result.

 

That is why we are here so that satanic side that you have pointed out will be refuted with truth that is why we know that cannibalism is real, that global flood is real, that humans are not apes, apes are not humans but most of all we are created in the image of God not satan.

 

Modern secular humanist believe humans should be punished will they are still alive that is why prison camps are increasing.

 

Pascal's Wager is idiotic because it assumes only two choices are available. There are tens of thousands of religions out there. What if I spend my entire life dedicated to Jesus only to find out Shinto was true? Or the Mayan religion?

It makes sense to wait until you have empirical evidence before you believe anything.

BTW, you are lying about what I am saying. I don't believe in any God. That is not the same thing as believing no gods exist.

 

Why are you bringing up Pascal's Wager? I made no mention whatsoever about it...where do you see I'm making mention of it?...I certainly don't see anywhere in my post where I'm bringing up Pascal's Wager...obviously you have misinterpreted what I said. You assumed the latter part of my post was referring to Pascal's Wager but sorry I must say you're assumption was dead wrong...no pun intended!

Pascal's Wager, while an interesting piece of philosophical thought, has no place in a Christian&#8217;s evangelistic and apologetic repertoire. Christians are to share and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ, which alone is the &#8220;power of God for salvation to everyone who believes&#8221; (Romans 1:16).

Here read below a thorough explanation of what my favorite Christian website have to say about Pascal's Wager if you're interested.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Pascals-wager.html

 

Your entire last paragraph is Pascal's Wager.

 

That's your interpretation but sadly an incorrect interpretation. I provided a link of Pascal's Wager I suggest that you read its entirety. Mind you this is coming from a Christian perspective but hey if you don't want to read it...then so be it.

 

You said "people" were contradictory in their views-

" Originally Posted by WanRen
yes i do believe that people are contradictory in their beleifs"


So you are better than other people?

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Pascal's Wager fails.

What if you are worshipping the WRONG God? If so, you condemn yourself as surely as the atheist, don't you?

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My question to Mitt Ryan-


Mitt, if I become "saved" as you claim to be....

will I begin to think as you do?

 

Your last paragraph boiled down to "you should be a theist because it doesn't hurt you to be one and it might help you avoid negative consequences". That IS Pascal's Wager in a nutshell.

 

But that's always been the flaw in Christians using Pascal's Wager as a support.

WHICH God is the "correct one" we're supposed to believe in? "Jehovah"? "Jesus/God/Spirit Trinity"?....

why not Vishnu?

 

Look don't get me wrong, I'm not here trying to convert you to Christianity. It is your choice what you choose to believe in or not to believe in. It doesn't bother me one bit if you stay an agnostic for the rest of your living days...that is your own personal decision.

But here let me help you a bit because it's obvious you haven't done your homework in regards to the Shinto & Mayan religions.

Shintoism is a purely Japanese religion. Shintoism is one of the world&#8217;s oldest religions. The Japanese people have a fierce love for their land and believe that the Japanese islands were the very first divine creation. In fact, Shintoism teaches that no other land is divine, making Japan unique in the world. Not surprisingly, Shintoism is not popular outside of Japan.

The two fundamental Shinto doctrines are that Japan is the country of the gods and her people are the descendants of gods. This concept of the divine descent of the Japanese people, as well as the divine origin of the land, has given rise to a conviction of superiority over other countries and peoples. With the exception of a few designated sects of Shinto, the religion has no founder, no sacred writings, and no authoritative set of beliefs. Worship takes place at one of the numerous shrines in the country of Japan, although many Japanese have altars in their home to one or more of the large number of deities.

To read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Shintoism.html

As for the Mayan religion they propheseid that the world was going to end on Dec. 21, 2012. Well let's see...today is June 11, 2015 and the world is still intact...we can conclude that the Mayan religion is a false religion.

Furthermore we can also conclude the Mayans were not prophets; they were not even able to predict their own cultural extinction.

To read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/2012-Mayan-prophecy.html

The Holy Bible does teach us that there will be an end of the world but only God the Father knows when.

We read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."---Mark 13:32 NLT

 

Are you once again trying to justify killing babies in the name of God ? While the global flood is myth, those who would justify killing in the name of God are all too real. These are the wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus warned about.

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Christians want people to be punished both here on earth and in the afterlife.

 

The Mayan religion did not say the world was going to end in 2012. That is a common misconception. Only that age was going to end and they didn't continue their calender last that point.

 

I think their calendar just starts over... Don't know where people came up with it meaning the world would end.

 

Usual sanctimonious guff (nonsense) by the Website. The Mayans didn't have the science we have, or our ancestors had. They knew the sun gave life so they worshipped it. They hadn't the evidence that it started earlier than 3114BCE. How could they know it. It forgets to mention that a certain Bishop Usher gave a date for the creation, which many Church authorities accepted. Various dates near that time were given by Keppler, Ven. Bede, Newton, Scaliger. It's rich of the website to criticise the Mayans. And then to quote the Bible at a people who had never been in contact with Christianity is the height of absurdity.

 

Those who contradicts themselves are not better than those who don't.
Those who do not contradict history, science, and God are better than those who does.

 

And of course you NEVER contradict yourself...so you're better than other people, right?

 

We are Pro Life that is why we do not support the killing of babies nor does God.
Killing in the name of their leaders and themselves is as real as the global flood as proven by both Christian and atheist scientist.
Yes it is good to hear that you recognized Jesus teachings in regards to wolves in sheep's clothing there are many of them out there and they like to use babies as human shield or camouflage behind babies, they reproduced like killer wasps with one mission only to kill innocent babies and adults.

Atheist want to exterminate people forever that is why they do not support after life it is all about die now and forever dead.

 

I do not contradict history, science or God.
Those who contradicts history, science and God are not better than those who do not contradict science, history and God.
Are you one of those who contradicts history, science and God?

 

Have you ever contradicted yourself? If not...then you are better than other people, right?

 

Where do these people come from? Mitt, WarRen, QChan.

 

I'll PM you.