Lancaster church breaks ties with Boy Scout troop after homosexual leaders allowed

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  1. sec

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    http://www.wbtv.com/story/29736786/...-scout-troop-after-homosexual-leaders-allowed

    HYPERLINK above has full story

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    The letter then outlines three reasons for deciding to split, including that homosexuality goes against the beliefs of the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church.

    "The teaching of the Bible is clear that it is a sin [...] therefore we can not condone as morally straight what the Bible calls sin," it reads.

    Church leaders say even if they chose to exercise the BSA's option for exclusion of homosexual leaders, by church groups, leaders would have no control of jamborees and summer camps.

    "This would expose our children to leaders that we would consider inappropriate and immoral," the letter states.

    The church says staying with the BSA would also leave them open to potential lawsuits attempting to force the inclusion of a homosexual leader.
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    The church has decided to sponsor a Christian-based organization at the church called Trail Life USA.

    Lever, who has been with the BSA organization for 48 years, will work with the church to transition boys to the new organization. The church has offered to pay the first year's registration fees for any boy who wants to transition to the new group.


    snip from comments of local parents

    We don't have any interest or anyone looking to lead in our troop either. We have good Godly men who give so much of their own time to work with our boys. The LGBT community found another organization that they could manipulate and force their name into. It has nothing to do with scouting. The boys are the ones who are paying the price so that LGBT can have another victory. Scouting has always been based on religious beliefs and that is what drew that community to it. Anything religious that goes against homosexuality they want to take down and destroy. It's very sad for the boys. I don't believe in that lifestyle and I know what the Bible says about it. But I don't go out looking for them to attack their lifestyle. That is between them and God. Thank you for your 18 years of service. I'm sure you have made a huge difference in the lives of many young boys and young men.


    I say kudos to the church for standing by the teachings of the Bible and not supporting homosexual sex. It's sad that the BSA felt they needed to allow homosexual men as leaders of little boys. I do not understand why the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ community felt it necessary to target the BSA for dismantling? Did the homosexual activists actually think that churches and parents would sit idly by as homosexual men could now have greater access to their little boys? I applaud this church for finding an alternative, "Trail Life" and also pay for the 1st year.

    Oh well, at one time, the top search engine was Yahoo. It's now Google. People will soon forget the BSA as it fades away thanks to homosexual activists and misguided leaders within the BSA.
     
  2. Elcarsh

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    So, as the BSA finally takes a long overdue step towards equality, one church decides to take a step backwards.

    This is not exactly news, and not particularly surprising. Good on the BSA for doing the right thing, bad on the church for being bigoted.
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    Over the last 30 years, a young boy was more likely to be molested in a church than in a boy scout troop.

    Just say'n.
     
  4. sec

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    following the Bible is not "bigoted" because you say so.

    The homosexual activisits for whatever reason, targeted the BSA for dismantling.

    Providing unfettered access of little boys to homosexual adult males is not a good idea no matter how much you try and spin it as "progress"

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    and it appears that the BSA did not learn from those cases of homosexual pedophilia.
     
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    There have always been gay leaders in the BSA. They were just not allowed to advertise it.

    But according to the number of molestation cases brought against the church as compared to the number brought against BSA, your young child is
    100 times more likely to be molested in a church based activity than a BSA one. Trail Life is a church affiliated organization.

    Just say'n.
     
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    This is plausible. BSA may simply become obscure, replaced by something else.
     
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    Your anti-Christian bigotry is duly noted. So also is your fascist view of equality.
     
  8. Pred

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    Because there were a lot of homosexual priests in denial that's why. Probably not too many homosexual scout leaders. The odds are the odds.
     
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    Well if you would be fine with Older High School/Young college boys taking your early teen girls out on overnight camping trips in the woods, then you should be fine with this. Other folks aren't and I can certainly see their point of view. Part of gender segregation is exactly so young people can spend some period of their day or week, free from sexual pressure and I can certainly understand that as well.
     
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    Whatever. Which has more years of experience, the church with over 2000 years, or the BSA with a little over 100?
     
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    That's their choice to make. Most BSA members couldn't care less about the new policies.
     
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    The Bible defines all homosexual acts as sinful, not merely being a homosexual.

    If evidence is provided placing someone who is sexually attracted to the same sex, in charge of a youth group of the same sex, will lead to inappropriate acts..I'll agree to separate them. However merely being a homosexual is no reason to bar them from a leadership role around young children/adults. What are they guilty of exactly? Isn't there a rush to judgment with the accusation they will molest or minimally recruit others into the homosexual lifestyle?

    I can't join the bandwagon and condemn someone who has done nothing to warrant such accusations aside from openly admitting to being sexually attracted to the same sex. That in and of itself is not a sin, and just as importantly not a crime of any sort or a reason to bar them from a leadership role in a youth group.
     
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    You do realize that the GSA already allow male scout leaders?
     
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    Uhm...what? What does experience have to do with anything?

    Are you trying to say that since the different christian churches have so much experience with treating gay people like crap, it's automatically the right thing to do?
     
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    Judging people based on their actions against others is not bigotry.

    Sorry you seem to have a persecution complex.
     
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    If so, by homosexuals in church. Just say'n.
     
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    Not judging people based upon their actions is what leads to molestation and societal decay. Sorry you seem to have a gay privilege complex.
     
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    Trail life USA! There is a troop near by. Thank you!!

    So many parents I know are upset over bas demise. It's nice to have an alternative.
     
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    The BSA can choose to allow whoever it wants as a leader. Being a BSA leader is a qualified privilege, not a right. They can pass by suspected alcoholics, adulterers, pot smokers, and fornicators as much as they can pass by suspected homosexuals.

    You may have a right to apply, you don't have a right to be chosen.
     
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    Wow. Looks like you are 'well read' in religious teachings. Most Christians, (as well as most doctors) believe that the homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy to engage in. The facts prove this. Why should religious individuals encourage someone to do something that is unhealthy for them?

    What's next. Do you want to hand out cigarettes at the next scout meeting? Maybe redefine the cub scout 'pack' to be 'pack a day'?
     
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    Gays suck so we're gonna take our homophobic ball away and go play by ourselves. No pun intended.
     
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    It's the church's decision to make. Regardless of the reason. Hopefully someone else will pick up their slack. Life goes on.

    I suspect that the biggest "backlash" to gay BSA scoutmasters will be parents who pull their kids out, and/or put them in another troop. Which is their choice also.
     
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    The LDS Church and Catholic Church who are heavy contributors in money and young parishioners who join the Boy Scouts are both gearing up for a mass exodus. The Boy Scouts will be a shell of what they used to be. The organization is going to wither away in the name of Political Correctness.
     
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    Yes. I care enough about my son to make sure he doesn't have a high risk of sleeping in the same tent with someone who is sexually attracted to him. Just like I wouldn't want my 15 year old daughter to sleep, dress and live in the same tent as a 20 year old man. MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    Until the pro gay crowd attacks some parents for being homophobes.

     
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