What regultions/controls do you Gun Grabbers want

What regulations/controls do you Gun Grabbers want to have the government implement?
state how those regulations/controls would have prevented the majority of the mass shooting we have had in the last two decades
if your regulations/controls wont prevent a majority of the mass shootings we have had your doing nothing but playing on emotions.
just doing something for the sake of doing something with out accomplishing crap, but infringing on our second amendment rights

 

Your 2nd Amendment rights are in the context of a well regulated militia.

What would I like? Universal registration. Mandatory training. Enforcement of reasonable restrictions on purchase. Basically, much the same as purchase of a car. You have to register it. Driver training is mandatory, at least for the young. Demonstrated competence is mandatory to get a license. Misuse can get your right to operate it taken from you. Mandatory regulations for safety of the vehicle and for safe operation exist.

None of these prevent idiots and criminals from driving, but they help. If your purposefully impossible conditions were met, any drunk. looney, or irresponsible idiot could drive, but could buy all the guns he wanted.

I don't want to grab your precious guns. You may play with them to your heart's content if that floats your boat. Just, for a change, be honest about it They are weapons. Reasonable restrictions on purchase, possession, and use do not, paranoia notwithstanding, mean confiscation.

 

Very well stated!

The paranoia and obfuscation from the NRA and their nuts is only going to hurt them in the long run. If they refuse to come to the table to discuss reasonable solutions, then they will be left out.

 

Most gun control laws are crafted by people who are profoundly ignorant about guns, and learned everything they now about the topic from fictional Hollywood movies.

Take the 1994 "assault weapon" ban. In the first place "assault weapon" was never a term used by firearms manufacturers. The very term bespeaks ignorance by the Democrats who passed that law.

I have a couple of 'M1A' model rifles made by Illinois gun manufacturer Springfield Amory. One was made before the 1994 'assault weapon' ban and the other after the ban. They are identical in every respect except one: the pre-ban rifle has a small protrusion under the barrel known as a 'bayonet lug' to allow for attachment of a bayonet to the rifle. The post ban gun does not have that protrusion.

Seriously? Liberals thought that they could reduce violence by passing a law to eliminate the bayonet lug? Apparently so, because that is exactly what they did.

 

I want public schools teaching gun safety. I want people armed. An armed society is a polite society.

 

Somalia, iraq, afghanistan, sudan, central african republic, etc

 

I agree. Keep the guns away from Islamist lunatics.

 

You want to reign in guns from people, yet you leftists have no problem letting in 30 million illegal aliens destroy the country. Go deal with that far more problematic issue first, THEN we can talk about stopping the mentally ill from getting weapons.

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You would lose over half the country before that would ever happen; the right to bear arms is an individual, unbreakable right that will not be infringed in my lifetime, or my children's.

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Sure superstar, when things go to hell in a handbasket, and people like you come running to the "gun nuts" for protection - you WILL be remembered, and you will be tossed outside of the house to fend for yourself. Hope your survival skills are up to snuff.

 

This is true, and "shall not be infringed" is all-encompassing. It is necessary for people to own guns in order to have a well regulated militia. Not the other way around.

 

The day after you are mugged walking in a nice park with your family in a gun-restricted city like Chicago or NY by a criminal who has no interest nor desire to follow the law, please let us know if you were happy to be in a completely vulnerable position and unable to defend yourself.

 

Are you saying the government won't collect guns door to door? They won't use the owners list to take them away from innocent people when they will fit?

 

Can you cite the language in the constitution that would give congress the power to enact universal registration, mandatory training, and reasonable restrictions on purchase?

 

Switzerland has a gun culture that works.

http://world.time.com/2012/12/20/the-swiss-difference-a-gun-culture-that-works/

 

"Most gun control laws are crafted by people who are profoundly ignorant about guns, and learned everything they now about the topic from fictional Hollywood movies."

21 years in the Army, to include RVN. Frankly, I've forgotten the number of different weapons I've qualified on or, at least, fired.

 

I think that we are in need of some reasonable gun laws but this is pretty extreme.

So if you don't get mandatory training can you take my guns? and refuse me to purchase new ones? How much will it cost me and who decides what is "necessary proper training"?

Who decides what "demonstrated competence" and if I dont meet it do you take my guns?

What are "reasonable restrictions" and if my current guns dont pass can you take my guns?

You are trying to compare gun rights to driving an automobile and they aren't even close. The fallacies that pile up in that one are too long to list. May I ask if you are in the range of 18 - 25? No offense meant at all I am just curious as to the use of that comparison, it really is that strange.

I put the statements in bold above for a reason. You are now seeing why the pro gun group of people is against any decisions for gun control because you are now showing your objective. That right there is what they keep call "gun grabbing"

Again, I am for gun regulations but when someone like you starts saying those things ... I start rethinking.

 

OMFG !!! There's a bayonet lug on that rifle !!! There ought to be a law outlawing bayonet lugs.

So the liberals in Sacramento said it will be so.

FYI:
The last known person to be bayoneted in America was in 1878 so they say.

 

The 'well-regulated militia' wording in the First Amendment is a present participle and does not restrict the right to militia members.
http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.txt

This was affirmed by the Heller decision by the SCOTUS. Suppose that the First Amendment had been "a well-educated citizenry being necessary to the functioning of a democratic state, the right of the people to own and read books shall not be infringed."

Would you conclude that the right of free speech only applied to people with degrees? No, that would be stupid. The critical wording is "the right of the people." The wording "well regulated militia" is indeed context, but nothing more. It does not imply a restriction.

 

Wow, I have yet to meet anyone with your experience want such drastic gun laws.

Interesting

 

So do you agree with the 1994 legislation passed by Democrats that banned an MIA rifle with a bayonet lug, but not one without a bayonet lug?

 

Just look at these posts...the same canned, paranoid responses mingled with more armchair constitutional rhetoric that never amounts to ANYTHING!

I have had this debate so many times over the years that it is apparent no one will never get through to some of these die-hard ditto heads who regurgitate the same talking points like parrots on crack.

There are more than enough sane people in this country, both gun owners and non-owners, who can reasonable admit there is a problem and a solution is warranted without reverting to the off-the-wall slogans continually bantered about. You can either be part of the solution, or the problem, but the country will eventually move to restrict access to certain weapons, ammo, and their sale whether you like it or not.

There is no further sermonizing required.

 

The government has already proven they can't be trusted with a registration. They will take the guns when the people need the the most. Proven fact that even grabbers can't deny.

 

Perhaps you can cite the language in the constitution that empowers congress to restrict the ability of the people of the states to keep and bear arms?

 

First, show me your law degree....

 

No answer. I figured.

 

If it's Obama, we are suppose to just take his word for it. He still refuses to release his college transcripts.