PM quits after UK votes to leave EU in historic Brexit referendum >>>MOD WARNING<<<

What language will the EU be using now?

To be honest, I don't think the EU is going to survive for too much longer, so does it really matter.

 

We have the same problem since the progressive ideology has bastardized the Constitution and grown central government far beyond what was intended.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they declared economic warfare and then outright invaded the Ukraine for exercising their right to self determination and joining the EU. And you're simply lying as the Kremlin is financing neo-fascist parties throughout the EU:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...t-is-wooing-and-funding-populist-9883052.html

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/0...-ukraine-sanctions-with-aid-and-ideology.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/08/russia-europe-right-putin-front-national-eu

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...EI01QGxK6ghFpqzbQ&sig2=LoclGIqaGnp7phTkFiI3rw


These are bought and payed for Moscow puppets treason by any other name....

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You're wrong the EU Parliament is directly elected by universal suffrage. Try again.

 

Every member of the EU Parliament is directly elected by universal suffrage it is the 2nd largest democratically elected body on the planet.

 

Russian fascists must be ecstatic over their funding of neo-fascist fifth columnist EU parties finally bearing fruit and destroying the West from within.

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Much of the blame for the Brexit outcome can be layed squarely on the shoulders of the politicians who sold out the West for Muslim votes.

 

I agree that a lot of the blame with brexit can be layed directly on the shoulders of politicians who sold out the West for Muslim votes but I think brexit is a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water as the EU is economically beneficial for all member states and you don't need to import millions of people from a culture that is incompatible with western democracy to have those economic benefits, however, Tony Blair was on TV today I think fox and friends during the trump speech in Scotland and he said that most Muslims in the UK aren't coming via EU channels so leaving the EU isn't going to solve this problem in the first place.

 

The referendum isn't legally binding but it will be political suicide to oppose the will of the people. What needs to be done for a second referendum to take place? How long do they have to wait to propose it? If and when they do leave can't they just vote to rejoin at a later time?

 

If the rabble rousers in the US aren't trying to destroy our society, what are they trying to do? We were in one of the best eras of race relations in the US until they started up again. It was almost like a swarm of locusts crawling out of the muck to chant their raucous message of discord;--not "messages," but "message" as they were almost all practically identical, nonthinking, and vicious, designed to rabble rouse the most ignorant and dependent portions of the population with their anti-white bigotry.

I will start a post elsewhere to continue this point, as here it is veering OT.

 

We vote for our representatives in the European parliament. as do the other members. It is an elected body, not unlike your Senate, where state representatives legislate to keep gunz.

 

Frankly, I don't believe it had to do with any real problem.

It was just really easy for politicians and those with issues to blame stuff on Europe.

Cameron placed an unbelievably bad bet and lost.

 

I think it's at least a partial backlash against Muslim immigration what with many politicians outright ignoring the grooming gangs running child sex rings so as not to lose the support of their Muslim constituency and the like.

 

I doubt the EU is going to be easy on the UK.

The LAST thing the EU wants is to allow nations to just glide in and out.

Today, the UK wants to take its time in engineering the departure, with Cameron saying he'll stay on until October and then allowing his follower to do the exit negotiation - maybe even taking a year or two.

That is NOT what the EU is saying. They're saying that this needs to be resolved at once with the UK gone and good riddance. When one thinks of the depressing effect of economic uncertainties from the exit dragging on and on I'd have to guess the EU is right. This needs to be settled.

 

How so? Where is the UK going to sell their goods? This is going to hurt business and it's going to kill foreign investment as who is going to manufacture in the UK if they won't have access to the EU market without dealing with red tape of two sets of regulations and inspections? If they're going to do that they might as well produce their goods in China or India or where ever the labor is a lot cheaper.

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Yes there's probably going to be a huge backlash from the EU community. Not looking good.

 

Russia supplies almost all of Europe's gas.

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Here is a terrifying thought: imagine a 21st century Yalta conference with Putin, Boris Johnson, and Tump sitting around a table,

 

Check it out.
The EU has destroyed some Greek fisheries!
German factory boats.
Grexit would reestablish their territorial waters and protect their fisheries
and maybe - be fairly compensated by those German factory ship to
balance their social programs.

My guess is their financial problems are largely due to corruption
and not a failure of funds in and funds out.


Moi

r > g
Economic colonialism
Greece, now Ukraine

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Build the Wall!
They walk among us unnoticed taking our jobs
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

You mean where some follow our constitution. The others are the ones that support the centralization of power, like the EU.

 

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact secret protocol mark 2. This election is ruff for the US there's really no good choice Trump is a populist demigod and Hillary is bought and paid for by foreign powers; such as, China, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia who have payed the Clintons tens of millions of dollars for speaking engagements which is standard practice for former Presidents but not for those who are running for President.

 

It's nothing to do with Muslims at all. Not even slightly. Brexit was claimed to stop European immigration because European nationals have the right of free movement to seek work in any member state. The Brexiteers have already admitted leaving won't change that.

 

You originally claimed that Britain doesn't elect anyone to the European Parliament. We do. I have no clue what you mean by the above ramble.

 

It has everything to do with Muslims who diluted the labor market with cheaper labor.
As well as "Free Trade" with Poland via the EU.
Poland where workers work for less just like Muslims in Britain.


Moi
And http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=462333&page=34&p=1066334743#post1066334743 too!

r > g

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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

No, I said Britain does not elect THE Parliament. Briton elects THE UK Parliament.

 

The EU Parliament is directly elected by popular vote you are deflecting from the fact that you were wrong.

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No you claimed that the EU was an unelected body:



"In short the UK voted for freedom from the unelected bureaucrats in Brussells."

The EU is a democratically elected body. Saying that it is not would be like saying that the US Congress and Senate are not.

 

I don't think they're worried about ethnic German or ethnic French immigrants. But it won't fix the Muslim invasion problem because I heard Blair on TV this morning say most of them aren't coming through the EU channels to begin with.

 

The EU is the largest single market in the World. Britain is leaving it up to the other 27 EU states, that it is turning its back on, to guarantee access to this market. Britain is also giving up its seat at the table regarding influence over much of the decision making process concerning the EU market. I believe there has already been a meeting called next week between all the EU heads of states to which the UK is not invited. Following Brexit, the UK will still be an official member state of the EU for a maximum of 2 years while exit negotiations are proceeding. That will not stop the other leaders from meeting outside of official EU business.

A vote for Stay in, or leave, there was always going to be uncertainty and division no matter which way the vote went. I will not be judging anything concerning Brexit yet. It is way too early. The problem for Britain, itself, is that the rest of the EU will not stand for any delay in kick starting the exit. Instability has to be minimalised. Cameron's pledge that the government will reflect on all this is a pipe dream. Neither the UK, nor the EU, can afford to sit around pondering this new reality.

Considering that the majority of Scots voted to remain in the EU, Scotland has pledged immediately that there is no alternative for the Scottish people other than an independence referendum. Ireland will not stand for any form of border checks on the Northern Ireland/Ireland border (The UK's only land border with the EU). The risk to the peace process would be extreme. Nor most likely will the people of Northern Ireland, who also voted by a majority to stay in the EU. The Irish economy is consistently the fast growing in Europe and cross border economic and social initiatives have been very successful since the Good Friday Agreement. No one will want to jeopardise these positives. Then you have Irish Republicans pushing for a referendum on a united Ireland for the first time since before the peace process started in the 1990's.

Only in England and Wales did a majority of people vote to leave the EU. The United Kingdom, as we know it, may be on the verge of being consigned to history. I truly hope that diplomacy wins out, and moves the UK towards whatever eventuality that satisfies as many people as possible. The people of the UK had their say yesterday. Now for the hard part.

 

its not like folks can just walk to Britain.

all folks who enter Britain must show a passport.

however, they can simply walk to Germany, France, Spain, all the way from Turkey and Greece.