Jesus Christ is no myth

A Rabbi called Jesus could have existed, that is different than supernatural claims of him doing miracles and rising from the dead. The crucifixion is plausible the Romans rarely tolerated troublemakers among the Jewish people and if Pilate found Jesus an issue to the peace during the Jewish Passover which was a nightmare for Rome and in the hot period of the year when most Romans moved outside the cities he likely would have had no tolerance for criminals.

 

Deniers will kept on denying the facts it is like the GOP (Republican Party of the USA) their hardcore stance against President Obama the first day Obama got elected in 2008 the GOP pledge that they will never work or cooperate with the President of the USA no matter what the issue is they will make sure his term of Presidency fails and there are those who truly believe that Obama is a Muslims is not an American and now the same hardliners in the GOP would prefer to see the USA burn, go to hell support crazy Trump then to support Hillary this is how deniers are no amount or evidences and facts will ever make them accept facts. Jesus faced the same situation his enemies the deniers will do everything to eliminate and destroy all evidences of God's existence from having Jesus crucified they failed, to killing all of Jesus Christ apostles and followers, to flooding the public with false and fake manuscripts to developing heretical or parallel Christian religion and finally to up front denial denial and denial brainwashed beyond accepting the truth.... they all failed and are still failing especially now that science and medicine has advance to the point that God's existence can be understood a lot better.

The evidences of the existence of those false manuscripts are undeniable. Thanks to the church fathers, those fake manuscripts and stories were kept separated from the real and actual manuscripts that contain the true story and message of God that is now in the New Testament authored by Jesus Christ's Apostles.


Eisenhower;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
"The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they [there] were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit [to Gotha] deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”

 

Yes you keep going in circles andignoring facts.

Black holes are proven and visible and so are sub atomic particles.

God has no supporting evidence whatsoever.

The gospels and epistles were not written by the apostles who were in all probability fictional themselves and they were not tortured or killed for what others wrote in their name

 

I wonder if modern day believers could go back and time and pal around with Jesus if they would have more faith in him than Peter had? Would they have been able to walk on water in the storm? Would they have stood should to shoulder with Jesus instead of denying him three times as Peter did?

Would they have had more faith Jesus' resurrection than Thomas did?

Would they give up their homes and families and go on the road with nothing to preach the gospel as Jesus directed?

How would they have coped with the demons? Would their faith and prayers have been strong enough to cast them out of the demon-possessed people they encountered?

Would their faith enable them to do greater things than Jesus had done?

Would they drink the wine that Jesus made from water?

 

I would ask him what planet he came from, after all with sufficiently advanced technology any being would seem divine. So if he did signs and wonders I would think - alien or alien avatar.

 

The Gospel of the NT are historical written and preserved it is the official accepted version of the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth the Christ and the whole history of Christianity it is consistent unlike the many myths and fake stories being spread by deniers that continue to to this day with new modern wild claims such as the one you put forward that the Apostles were not tortured or killed and that someone likely the Romans who wrote the NT this kind of claims is the same as to those who claim that Hitler or Elvis is still alive or that the holocaust never happened.

 

And in the end Peter, Thomas,all the Apostles including the notorious Paul who was once known as the Christian hunter become true believers because Christ shown himself to them that he is real.
and if we can travel back in time to Jesus Christ we will truly witness and testify to what is written in the Bible is all true.

 

There is no such thing as an official historicity.

The theory that the Romans commissioned the creation of christianity has the merit of some supporting evidence. On the other hand evidence proves overwhelmingly that the gospels and epistles were written by others who came later not the actual people whose names appear as authors. That is fact you need to get over.

Another fact is you have no evidence of them being tortured and killed it is a made up claim.

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There is no such thing as an official historicity.

The theory that the Romans commissioned the creation of christianity has the merit of some supporting evidence. On the other hand evidence proves overwhelmingly that the gospels and epistles were written by others who came later not the actual people whose names appear as authors. That is fact you need to get over.

Another fact is you have no evidence of them being tortured and killed it is a made up claim.

 

Since time travel is currently impossible your claim is moot.

There is no evidence of your claims about paul or any others. Hearing a voice in your head is not evidence

 

With the advance of science, technology, medicine and philosophy we are able to understand more than ever that God is real that arguments and distorted claims being put forward by deniers of God lack total logic and common sense. Scientist agree that creation can not or did not start from nothing that natural selection can only happened with intelligent design. We are getting closer to learn and understand more about the process of creation. To date, scientists have not yet discover or confirm the existence of alien beings from other planets.

 

The closes thing we can get to time travel is through the historical books written, artifacts and archeological evidences discovered and preserved by the scientific community that all confirm the existence and reality of God.
Atheist have none of those except their personal claims that kept changing with time.

 

Those are your facts not the official facts that is why deniers kept presenting new myths total lack of consistency.

Eisenhower;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
"The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they [there] were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit [to Gotha] deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”

 

Wrong there are no artifacts, or archeological evidences that confirm the existence and or reality of god.

Atheists need no evidence as theirs is the null position

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Thereare no offiical facts.

Facts stand on their own and my post was factual because you cannot offer any evidence whatsoever to refute the facts as i presented them

 

Or maybe just a REALLY good illusionist.

I keep expecting Penn and Teller to do the Loaves and Fishes thing one day, just to show it's a trick .

 

another fact that stands out is the existence of atheist, without atheist we will not know more about God.

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That is one of the reasons why the deniers fail is because they can not disprove that God or Jesus Christ crucifixion and resurrection is all a delusion or magic trick.

Eisenhower;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
"The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they [there] were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit [to Gotha] deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”

 

You really need to clarify that you basically posted word salad

 

Would you be here right now arguing that there is no God or that all evidences pointing to God's existence are all fake if God is not real?
Since the dawn of modern man God's existence became real. When did atheist awareness that there is no God started?

 

By this logic, Zeus is real.

 

Interstellar travel sounds cool but it's silly to think that life forms can do it. The distances are too great. The vehicles would have to be perfect and self-repairing. Then there's the fuel problem. Robots could do it but, since time will be passing on the home world, by the time they returned their civilization would be completely different, if not extinct. On top of that if they did visit and return home our world would be completely different on their next visit. So they would always find a vastly different Earth than what they found on their last visit. Then there's the cost, gravity, and atmosphere to content with as well as bugs.

Paul concocted the Jesus character in order to sell his idea of a resurrection religion. It was simply a con game.

 

OK, but the questions were what would the current believers do if they saw those events in person? Would their faith be strong enough to allow them to walk on water in a storm? Would they cast out the demons that infected people? Would they deny Jesus like Peter did? Would they leave their families and hit the road to preach about Jesus with just the clothes on their backs? Would they drink the wine that Jesus made from water?

 

Yes that is precisely why we argue he is not real.

You contradict yourself if he became real when man became modern he is not and never was god

 

Oh I agree that there is absolutely no viable evidence to support any claims of supernatural activity done by Jesus.

Obviously a large rock is easy to move by a few men and the whole....Resurrected....thing has absolutely no proof.

However there are some who go so far as to say no proof exists to support the existence of Jesus and that simply is not correct.

There is documentation done by the Romans.

AA

 

Just not in any way you can demonstrate. Your internal beliefs are not evidence. Your incessant mere assertions are not evidence. Your theology is not evidence. Your frequent statements which you mistakenly claim as fact are not evidence.

You should sue those that indoctrinated you.

 

This is an example of the problem.

While we have no issue with a person having a specific set of beliefs it is sad to see religious individuals expound upon existing evidence and proof that would back their beliefs when none actually exist.

And if you ask them to post such poof or evidence they will usually quote the Bible.

AA

 

He is, though he's a demon. They have names also.