Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi

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  1. Ronstar

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    Here’s what the despicable jewish supremacist Theodore Newman Kaufman thought of the Germans:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

    In this thread we can read about contemporary jewish leaders who have the same hatred of Palestinians and Africans.
     
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    Germany was divided into 4 parts after WW2


    and what the (*)(*)(*)(*) does this have to do with the OP?
     
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    yes, even the Jews have some extremist idiots.

    i guess that means we are just like all other peoples.

    mostly good, with a few bad apples
     
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    so because there is a very small minority of Jews who are extremists and idiots, we should hate ALL Jews?

    hahaha!!!!
     
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    That's an obvious and gross misrepresentation.

    Israel DOES promote apartheid policy.

    Their own ethnicity is not the issue. The issue is the direction that citizens of Israel have taken their nation.

    Your attempt to raise hate as being the issue is a deflection. We can analyze national policy without your extremist interpretations.
     
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    I find this a weak argument, as our direction is the rule of law, democracy, and equal treatment.

    We can judge all those without having to make some historic argument related to the hatred we see today.

    Today, we can notice that Israel is run under a somewhat light form of apartheid with their leadership promoting a strengthening of their apartheid. We can notice that they are taking part in ethnic cleansing, which is a crime. We can notice that they are conducting a continuing war on the people of Gaza without there being any conditions for termination and with a total refusal to negotiate - and that is a crime, too.

    I think those are far stronger points. They may (or may not) stem from hatred. They may (or may not) stem from some belief that they have rights from Biblical times (even though NO such rights could possibly exist), etc.

    But, they DO NOT have a right to the actions they are taking today.
     
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    You don't have to as this has been well established and is incontrovertible.
     
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    Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef said non-Jews who fail to live by the seven Noahide laws should be expelled to Saudi Arabia, such as not to commit suicide, murder and so on. His sermon was misquoted by Channel 10 television as “forbidden for a non-Jew to live in the Land of Israel.”
     
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    Here's another example of how jews spew out hate against non-jews.

    Talentless comedian and jewish supremacist Roseanne Barr advocates mass murder of non-jews who oppose Israel's countless war crimes against the Palestinians:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...c-davis-should-be-nuked-for-anti-israel-vote/

    http://fox40.com/2015/02/11/roseanne-barr-tweets-she-hopes-uc-davis-gets-nuked/

    What do you think would happen if a famous non-jew were to say the same thing about jews? "This pro-Israel campus should be nuked, but I hope all the non-jewish students get out in time". Seriously, what do you think would happen?
     
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    what about all the hatred against Jews that is in all of your comments?
     
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    Hmm…let's see. Roseanne Barr is a jewish supremacist who advocates mass murder of non-jews who oppose Israel's war crimes against the Palestinians. I, on the other hand, have never advocated violence against jews – or any other ethnic group, for that matter.

    Sorry, dude, but I don't see the similarities that you're talking about.
     
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    Agreed. While being a Holocaust Denier you actually help out Jews worldwide by pointing out the less than one thousandth of a percent of them that are harming them. This leaves the bulk of Jews, well over 99% as being stellar good people in your book and, pretty much compares with all peoples on this globe.

    Jews and others thank you for pointing foul beings out for us.
     
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    Actually, I haven't engaged in "holocaust denial" on this forum.

    And you didn't answer the following question:

    What do you think would happen if a famous non-jew were to say the same thing about jews? "This pro-Israel campus should be nuked, but I hope all the non-jewish students get out in time". Seriously, what do you think would happen?
     
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    Sure did when you tried to make a funny by mocking victims and particularily Ron's aunt who was a victim of the final solution.

    Sam or you would start a thread. Maybe both would on different forums. Anything else?
     
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    First you claim that I denied the holocaust, then you claim that I mocked some random poster's great-aunt who supposedly survived a concentration camp. That's hardly the same thing. In any case, here's what happened. The poster that you're talking about wrote the following comments:

    And I posted the following reply:

    It looks like my opponent Drew Bedson is the one who mocks the holocaust since he seems to think that Irene Weisberg Zisblatt's story is ridiculous.

    The real answer is: his career would have been destroyed, and if he lived in Europe he probably would have been thrown in jail. However, when a jew like Roseanne Barr advocates mass murder of non-jews, nothing happens. Do you see the difference?
     
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    1- Probably most Americans do not know that Israel in history was not Jewish. This is neither the the Kingdom nor the man named Israel. So, it is somehow funny when one reads these things.

    2- Democracy is essentially the tyranny of the majority and this is what this is saying about the only democracy.
     
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    You're right it's not the same thing - one is Holocaust Denial and the other is mocking somebody who survied something you deny.
     
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    Here's another interesting article about racism in Israel:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/survey-most-jews-would-refuse-to-live-in-a-building-with-arabs-1.183554

    We're not talking about a few extremist nutjobs. The despicable jewish supremacists that I have written about in this thread are legion, and they're very influential people, like rabbis, chief rabbis, members of government etc. I think that this is remarkable so I decided to start a thread about it.

    Okay, let's try this again: you said that I'm a "holocaust denier", and when I wanted you to prove your claim, you retorted that I once mocked a PF poster's great-aunt who supposedly survived a concentration camp. Now, I didn't really mock this person (if she even exists), but even if I did, it wouldn't prove that I'm a "holocaust denier" because mocking and denying are two different things.

    Why don't you focus on the thread's topic (jews' hatred of non-jews) instead of accusing me of things that have nothing to do with it?
     
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    You said the suffering of six million Jews who were systematicly murdered along with millions of others who worked as slaves with little or no comfort or necessities of life was alledged which makes you a Holocaust Denier.

    You said:

    ""Jews always demand respect from non-jews because of their alleged suffering during WWII (I say "alleged" because there are famous "holocau$t $urvivor$" who have been exposed as frauds)""

    I asked you to acknowledge the Holocaust as fact but you will not <<MOD EDIT - Rule 2 - Removed personal attack>>
     
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    As you know, I've addressed this several times, but you keep bringing it up over and over again, in thread after thread. Regardless of the topic, you show up and proclaim that I'm a "holocaust denier" (even though I've never actually engaged in "holocaust denial" on this forum).

    You realize that you can't counter my arguments (it's difficult to defend jewish religious and political leaders who advocate discrimination against, and in many cases even the rape, imprisonment and mass murder of innocent non-jews), so you think that if you spew out words like "holocaust denier" and "antisemite", you will somehow win the debate, without having to address the issues.

    It's cheap, dishonest and pathetic, and probably against the forum's rules (off topic, cross posting, harassment etc.), but since that's your only weapon I understand that you have to keep using it, so go ahead, keep following me around on the forum in order to spew out your personal attacks instead of focusing on the thread's topic. I'm sure that that will impress the intelligent readers.
     
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    it is illegal for Jews to live in or even visit Mecca.

    Israelis cannot visit Saudi Arabia.
     
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    You deny the systematic murder of six million Jews AKA 'the Holocaust' occured stating it is only alledged to have occured thus, you actively denied the Holocaust.
     
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    When I used the word "alleged", I was talking about "holocau$t survivors" who have been exposed as frauds, like Herman Rosenblat:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Rosenblat

    And there are many more such crooks out there.

    In any case, whatever I may or may not think about the holocaust is off topic in this thread. This thread is about the hate that jews spew out against non-jews, although I understand that you don't want to talk about that.
     
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    why don;'t you want to talk about the hate many non-Jews have for Jews?
     

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