What the US is Planning for the Christians of Syria & Russia: A Public Plea to Patria

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The genocide of Christians seems to matter little to you just as the genocide of Jews was a lesser matter as well. And of course it is Muslims murdering Muslims in the Middle East which would not make it a "genocide" at all but rather an inter-religious war instead. You're so eager to dismissive genocide against Christians that you don't even try to think the issues or the terms through properly.
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incredible! I'd be very interested in historical evidence you might have for any of this nonsense.
     
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    What about children? Can we be the defenders of children?
     
  4. Matt84

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    So what are you going to do about it big boy?
     
  5. SiNNiK

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    The only way I could ever respect an opinion like this is if the islamic jihadis killed your own child, and then you excuse them for it because of "Crusades". If you were to say these things while giving your own child's eulogy, then I could respect what you say. As long as you are only saying this about other people's kids, you're just talking out the side of your neck.

    Ridiculous.
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He might be a Muslim... they have their own twist on history. Today I read something In Consortium News by a Sam Husseini who is no doubt a Muslim, about the troubling origins of our national anthem..

    He first mentioned that one line is racist since it mentioned slaves... except that it mentioned hirelings together with slaves... and indentured servants were Europeans not blacks. Then he said the following quote in reference to a part of the anthem where we fought the Barbary pirates. That they were a scourge on all of Christianity, and that the sea coast villages of Italy had emptied out for fear of being sold into slavery is completely ignored.


    In 1814, Key rehabbed this doggerel into the Star Spangled Banner. So America’s national anthem began as a gleeful tirade against the Mahommedans. And, of course, every member of the U.S. Marine Corps regularly bellows out the USMC anthem, beginning ‘From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.’ “In short, America’s march to Empire was minted in the crucible of anti-Islamic sentiment.
     
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    Vote for candidates most likely to destroy radical Islam.
     
  8. SiNNiK

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    LOL@muslims.
     
  9. Bobbybobby99

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    I'm not a Christian, so my child wouldn't fall under the category of 'Christian child beheaded'. Beheading children in general is bad, and I am not saying that the crusades excuse anyone; that was mostly in response to a side argument. Where I differ? I think that a senior citizen dying in his eighties of old age is just as bad as a child being beheaded, regardless of religion.

    Though really, I'm just starting to get confused here. Don't Christians believe in a super-happy-fun afterlife? If you actually believe in an afterlife, I'm not seeing why you view death in general as more tragic than, say, emigrating to Australia.
     
  10. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your confusion is apparent. If Christians wanted to die as quickly as possible in order to get to heaven there would soon be no more Christians. Once you have gained some world experience you'll discover that most people want to have long and happy lives, even most Muslims.

    Do you really not have access to Christian teachings?
     
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    So, you would be OK with your 12 year old son getting decrapitated for him being a member of your belief system, because he is going to a better
    place / Afterlife ?

    Somehow, you seem less than truthful / Sincere.
     
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    Well, I'm categorically opposed to death, and don't believe in an afterlife (well, I believe in reincarnation, but I don't really consider soul recycling to be you recycling), so I can't really say. If I believed he was, quite literally, going to be living in a wondrous paradise... then yeah, I wouldn't really see the problem with him being decapitated, given that said decapitation wouldn't actually harm him in any significant way. I don't believe that, and I also don't believe in decapitating children, but I'm not certain how you can simultaneously believe that someone you love is going to be much happier, if non-contactable for a few years, and that this fact is a horrible tragedy that ought to be wept about.

    Quite obviously, people who believe in an afterlife still seem to consider decapitating children a tragedy, but I'm not seeing the connection of thought there. If death makes the involved person happy and immortal, I don't see how you could be filled with sorrow about it. My personal theory is that people who are Christian nowadays don't really believe in an afterlife and in their religion like they believe the sky is blue; people's beliefs don't seem like beliefs to them, they seem like ways that the world are. What seems like a belief to you is, more than likely, a belief in a belief. You don't really think that there is an afterlife, you think that it would be nice to believe in an afterlife, so thereafter you say that you believe in an afterlife to yourself, but your actions don't actually incorporate that. You still think that murder is a horrible thing, even though it would be making people happier; you still think that suicide is a horrible thing, even though it would be no more objectionable in terms of joy and consent than, say, drinking a glass of wine. You still think that people who decapitate children are evil, and that children being decapitated is a bad thing, even though, under your idea of an afterlife, them being decapitated would just be rendering them permanently happy and immortal.
     
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    What are you 10 years old ? Because either you are using infantile logic, or you are merely trying to rankle people here, indicated by your evasion and refusal to answer the question, rephrased;

    So, you would be OK with your 12 year old son getting decrapitated ???

    It is being deprived of ones family regardless of an Afterlife or other better place.
    It is the violent act too, somehow, you seem incapable of feeling things as normal people do.
     
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    The Talmudic Noahide laws require the decapitation of Christians who insist that God walked the Earth as the Perfect Man, Jesus Christ.
    This should let anyone know that much of what passes for Islam is really Judaism: the doctrines of the Pharisees that make the Word of God of none effect on Earth.
    And the fact that the USA has been actively supporting, protecting and enabling all this Talmu-Islamic terrorism who no opposition from the American public that prefers to love comfortable lies, makes us all liable for a severe Judgment at the hands of those we have been so in love with for so long.
     
  15. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Church does not believe in killing because the longer someone lives the better their chance of repentance. Without it they can't acquire the Grace necessary to achieve unity with the divine in His Kingdom.

    The alternative to that is for them to continue their 'this world' state of mind after death... yet this world has ceased to exist, so they will find themselves in a void of their own making... forever
     
  16. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's an excellent point. Moses is mentioned far moore times in the Koran than Mohammad, and so is Jesus. Why Muslims make such a big deal of Mohammad, given his bed rep, is a mystery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_mentioned_by_name_in_the_Quran
     
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    Funny I thought this was a Christian Country built on Christian values.
     
  18. DennisTate

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    Heavy!

    I know that you are far more well informed on these topics than I am Jeannette.

    What is your opinion on:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...christian-refugees-prevented-being-lists.html
    Yazidi and Christian refugees prevented from being on LISTS...
    ... by Islamic Refugee Camp guards and officials!
     
  19. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here are a few quotes that reflect the faith of our Founding Fathers. There are many, many more:


    George Washington

    "While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."


    Thomas Jefferson

    "God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."


    John Hancock


    "Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."

    "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."


    Benjamin Franklin

    "Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.


    James Madison

    "A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest while we are building ideal monuments of Renown and Bliss here we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven."


    James Monroe

    "When we view the blessings with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we possess of handing them down unimpaired to our latest posterity, our attention is irresistibly drawn to the source from whence they flow. Let us then, unite in offering our most grateful acknowledgments for these blessings to the Divine Author of All Good."


    Alexander Hamilton

    "I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor.

    I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."
     
  20. Wehrwolfen

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    Yes, we can all agree that this nation was established on Christian values and man's unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness (Freedom). Socialism and Marxism negates each of those values established by our forefathers. That is why each of these are looked down upon and pushed to the wayside, great men and especially George Washington while people like Stalin, Mao, FDR, and LBJ are epitomized and revered by Progressives.
     
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    What a sad thing that child's death was. Simply for being Christian. Islamists should all be removed. Eradicated. An entire faith removed from existence and history. Don't confuse them with followers of normal Islam. Nice enough people those. I don't approve of mass immigration of any Muslims though, they refuse to integrate and attempt to assimilate. Very good at it too.
     
  22. Thehumankind

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    They can also do that with the Shiites,
    the supposed leader of Syria should prevent that from happening, but he is so inept enough as a leader to perceive this gruesome scenario before. The lions and the tigers still continue asserting their dominance while the wolf devoured the sheep and the supposed shepherd is watching over the lion to save itself from the tiger instead of watching over the sheep.
    And now the shepherd wanted to blame the donkey, I could say what a mess.
     
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    You thought wrong.
     
  24. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    We're not a Christian nation despite your failed logic to make us one. We are a secular nation.
     
  25. Merwen

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    By law we have a secular government.

    In a recent poll approximately 83% of Americans reported themselves as being Christian.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=religion percentages usa

    (By the way--my character allusion was to the particular poster I was responding to, not to people of other beliefs or nonbeliefs, and was based on the historical characteristics of that particular poster's posts.)
     

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