Couple fined for refusing to host same-sex wedding on their farm

No, I'm not a moderator and have no power to censor or ban anyone. I'm merely pointing out to you that forums have rules and if they offend you then I'm sure there are plenty of other forums where you can swear to your heart's content. This is not one of them. If you feel that you really cannot restrain yourself from posting without profanity then this is clearly not the place for you.
Rule #9: http://www.politicalforum.com/rules.php

 

Al right, there is profanity filter here. Now let me try this phrase and see if the filter works on it.


GAY MAFIA

The profanity filter apparently doesn't think that the phrase is profanity. So why did you moderator, censor it? Why did you change the post title without my permission or my request to change it?

 

Is that a rule against profanity? You're giving me college boy political correctness, aren't you?

Fascist bullies went after this couple in New York and some here on this thread also believe that being a practicing Christian immediately makes one a criminal also which to them justifies the wire tap on the law abiding couple.

Every privately owned business provides a public accommodation. so according to the New York courts and the members here supporting the fines on the couple, every private business is instead a publicly owned business.

 

Yes, it is a rule against the use profanity-the clue is in the word 'profanity'-just after "9". And, no, I'm not giving you anything. If you're not happy here, and clearly you aren't, I already suggested the options open to you. If you want to stick around then curb your language; it really isn't so hard.

 

No, most private businesses provide a public accommodation but they're still private businesses. All private businesses and private individuals have to obey the law though and that law should be applied equally. That doesn't make us all publicly owned, it just makes us citizens, rather than being random individuals who just happen to be on the same bit of land.

 

there is a section where you can make an inquiry to the mod staff and pose that question. With respect to any topic concerning homosexuals, you will find your words will be closely scrutinized as the mods get reports by a certain group here every time the hypocrisy of homosexual activists is raised

 

That's the point that those in favour of arbitrary discrimination - i.e., refusing to serve Black Americans at your lunch counter - continually pretend not to understand.

If you choose to profit by a business that serves the public, you agree to follow the law and serve the public, and all members of the public have constitutional rights, including those that guarantee equal treatment under the 14th Amendment.

Thus, as an American citizen who happens to be a tall, White, male, right-handed, heterosexual ecumenical, I am entitled to be served by a business run by short, Black, female, lesbian evangelical south paws. The business owners assumed the burden of having me as a customer when they established their business that is required to respect the nation's laws regardless of whether that gets them in a tizzy.

What a country!





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Well the term gay mafia is another name for the radical homosexual lobby and it's a well known term and the profanity filter didn't block it out.. If I'm going to be censored every-time I say something that the moderators don't like, then I'm out of here voluntarily. They wont have to keep censoring me until they ban me. All it is is political correctness. The filter meanwhile encourages more anti Christian profanity in the meantime instead of decreasing it.

This is the country we live in now.

 

You would had love the 1950s when blacks was ban from a large percent of hotels and lunch counters and beaches and so on.

 

Liberty Ridge Farm, Upstate NY’s Original Fall Experience is right in the backyard of the Capital District. Celebrating 17 years of growing memories, you’re invited to join in the festivities!

(they advertise as a wedding venue)

Nestled on the banks of the Hoosic River in Schaghticoke, NY, Liberty Ridge Farm’s 100 acres offers joy and fun for the whole family. Discoveries include an 11 acre cornfield maze, pumpkin picking, pig racing, cider donuts, shows, and over 20 hands-on activities with plenty of space to accommodate families, friends and groups of any size.

Liberty Ridge Farm is a great place to hold school field trips, birthday parties, wedding receptions, sweet sixteen parties, Bar Mitzvah, team building and corporate events. Whether you are searching for a place to bring your family for the day, or looking to gather your church group, Scouts, or Clubs, Liberty Ridge Farm is the place to Unplug and Discover.

http://libertyridgefarmny.com/

 

Liberty Farm advertises as a wedding venue.

 

I largely agree as a matter of philosophy. The problem is that the privately owned McDonalds, for example, is situated along highways paid for by taxes imposed on everyone. In some cases, the only place to eat along a stretch of such a publicly owned highway, which facilitates interstate commerce, is that McDonalds.

 

I have to disagree. When you are open to the public, the roads that pave the way to your business are paid for by citizens. Using ones business to push religious beliefs is good for lawyers, but not for business. A gay person can refuse to allow (Christians for example) into their private home. The moment they are open to the public, they must respect the law of the land. It is illegal to discriminate against people based on religious beliefs. To enjoy legal protection for their beliefs while denying service due to others based on their beliefs is not justice.

If you own a business, there are opportunistic lawyers ready to make an example out of you. Don't be stupid.

 

Liberty Farms advertises themselves as a wedding venue... which means they are open for business...

 

I love the way our governments propaganda states that nations hate us for our freedom. What freedom, when someone doesn't have the right to choose who they want on their property ...whether it's a store, farm, home, etc.

 

You don't understand the law at all. The farm is open to the public for business. They can't discriminate.

 

Margot this doesn't mean that the owners have lost their rights over their own property. ..As long as it is their property, they should have a right to choose who they want on it... or for that matter what kind of services they want on it.

What if it was a satanic service, or anything equally offensive, do you think they should allow it... even though it might go against their religious sensibilities?

No one is telling that same sex couple not to get married, after all they're allowed to have their freedom of choice, but shouldn't the owner have the same freedom and disallow them since ...after all it is his property?

 

^ An extremely homophobic message in which you claim gays literally are a different race of people. Do you accept that gays are even human?

 

They should be able to discriminate if they are the owners, otherwise they have lost all rights as American citizens..

 

They advertise their farm as a wedding venue.

 

All of us have the right to decide who we want on our private property. This is about public property and our freedom from discrimination based on our beliefs. People of religion enjoy this protection and should not be allowed to use it to deny others regardless of whether or not they agree with their beliefs.

 

Liberty Ridge Farm advertises here:

http://libertyridgefarmny.com/

 

in the State of NY, can a gay owned bed and breakfast refuse service to those who they don't want to cater to in their business? If two members of a group the gay owners felt weren't "right" or "wanted" in their establishment, even though they advertise, would the NYACLU take on that case? I doubt the answer would be yes. There are too many examples of gay owned, gay oriented businesses refusing to serve the non gay community in their businesses.

 

You have no idea what it means to be an American citizen......

http://libertyridgefarmny.com/

 

The Giffords made it a public accommodation, when they offered it to the public. The simplest solution for these folks who want to exclude gay, black or other kinds of people from what they offer to the public is to simply decline the reservation without comment.

This Giffords have a problem because they chose to give a reason as to why they declined the reservation. Apparently the reason they gave was because the couple was gay.



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