Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah before we ban countries with the highest terror rates in the world, we first need to make sure they kill a bunch of people in the US before we can honorably tell them no.

    Progressives are a disease, thankfully they're suicidal, but it puts the rest of us in danger.
     
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    There is a fine vetting process in place already, the problem is in verifying whatever evidence applicants from Trump's list of banned countries may present. Obviously there's no certainty Syrian passports are valid when terrorists have seized the presses they're printed with. With roaming bands of armed terrorists seizing towns and shooting up police stations, one would sensibly have doubts of any documents, birth certificates, school records, diplomas and such would all be unverifiable if issued in places where the government lacks complete control, this applies to all on Trump's list except Iran.

    Saudi Arabia and probably Egypt have full control of their territory, there is insurgency in Egypt, but none of the militants have been capable of holding territory.

    Part of the problem, most evident in the EU, is concern for the disposition of rejected asylum applicants. The fellow who blew himself up in Germany at a bar when he couldn't get into a concert is a fine example; his application for asylum was rejected two years earlier, he was released on condition he leave, he skipped deadlines, the authorities didn't want to deport him because they were concerned he would be killed in his country, couselors tried to find him work, he got public assistance, couldn't find work and finally got notice of imminent deportation when he blew up. Was he pushed into that situation, could better social services have prevented this, do the EU and US have an obligation to rehabilitate Islamic fundamentalist terrorists?
     
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    Yup. The Court based their decision on a baldfaced lie.

    Per a 2015 report, a year at Georgetown University cost $66,971. That is a significant amount of money to be taught slavery is good.(*)Slavery good, forced sexual relations even better.“Are you more morally mature than the Prophet of God?” Brown says. “No, you’re not.”So, there you have it. If Muhammad held slaves, how bad could slavery really be?It’s a challenging point, actually: if the Prophet behaved in a certain way, who are Muslims today to stand in judgment of him and what he did? If we say that slavery is evil, are we not implicitly condemning the Prophet as an evildoer? Can a Muslim do that and still be a good Muslim? I don’t know
     
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    Stop scaring yourself. No immigrant from the nations targeted for discrimination has killed a single person on US soil in a terrorist act in the past four decades, and all attempting to enter are subjected to intensive vetting.

    That bloated "72 terrorists" nonsense is contrived propaganda spewed by the anti-immigrant "Center for Immigration Studies" and parroted by bobble-headed xenophobes.

    Libertarians have exposed the fraudulent hype that has the nervous nellies weeing their frillies:

     
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    Please explain the details of this 3 month process. How does one check the background of a person with no paper trail?
     
  6. GraspingforPeace

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    Huh! I actually never saw that AP article with the stated goal of increasing processing time. Good for them. You see, I actually support letting more refugees in, so I'm not going to harp on the actual processing time, what I care about are the results and the procedures. But I apologize for being chastising, thanks for bringing new knowledge to my mind!
     
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    I certainly would not. I know that religion is and always was a major contributor to the woes of mankind.

    You do realize, because you analyzed the report you cited, that the majority of those attacks were in Iraq and Afghanistan and in those attacks it was Muslims killing Muslims.

    The attacks in India and Pakistan are mostly internal problems.

    The attacks in Nigeria are the remnants of a half century old civil war that resulted in millions dying from starvation, far more than from terror attacks.



    The single largest number of deaths occurred in Iraq with 6932 deaths. In comparison, in the United States, Americans shot and killed over 10,000 Americans. I guess murders are not considered terrorist attacks. I doubt the dead people make such a distinction.
     
  8. RichT2705

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    Unbelievable isn't it? Because for some reason the US just needs more Somali Muslims...
     
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    Most refugees usually don't have a valid passport from their own country.

    In the case of the Somalia jihadist I referred too, Pakistan issued him a passport so he could be admitted to the USA to go jihad.

    I wonder how many American passports the Obama State Department has issued to non citizens ?

    You would think if a refugee has been issued a refugee visa and at some time that refugee returns to his home country that he or she was fleeing from like for visiting relatives or just for a vacation or maybe to attend an Al Qaeda or ISIS bomb making class, they would have their refugee status revoked and denied reentry back into the USA. It's a no brainer.

    One of the Boston Marathon bombing Islamist terrorist Tamerlan Tsarnaev was reunited with his parents under the IRA of 1965 family reunification who were given asylum in the USA. Technically the entire family were refugees. Tamerlan Tsarnaev along with his refugee father traveled back to their homeland and Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended a Islamist bomb making schools and then returned back to the Boston.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev should have never been allowed reentry into the USA but the Obama State Department saw it differently.
     
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    What didnt you understand about facing a different threat today than yesterday?
    Now lets play the same game with attacks in paris germany and the uk.
     
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    Where are you getting that from? I am at work and cannot compile a list right now. Will get back to you... but the recent rash of terror is coming from there, every country in europe is on high alert because they know isis is embedded in refugee populations. You dont seem to be willing to look at the world around you.

    I will show it to you regardless.
     
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    No I'm going to talk to you. YOU made the absolutey ridiculed and ignorant claim that there hasn't been a terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11. This statement is beyond political partisanship and goes into pure stupidity. What in the hell is wrong with you that you would actually believe this statement to be true?
     
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    Tamerlan Tsarnaev could visit the US under Trump's suspended eo
     
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    Out of the banned countries when was a terrorist act committed on US soil or should I say in the US by someone from those countries?
     
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    So u acknowledge we already have a vetting process

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    By someone from the banned countries.
     
  16. RichT2705

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    You haven't been making that case. Now as to the banned countries, these weren't just the 7 lucky hits on a dartboard, those countries were chosen for a reason. Why do we feel the need to wait until we have an attack from one of those countries?
     
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    Sorry, your cheeto colored messiah casually left those countries off the list because he has business interests in them. Woops.
     
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    No its actually as spot on as any analogy could be.

    Your entire objection to these regions is that their "refugees" haven't killed Americans on American soil in a nationally recognized terrorist attack.

    Never-mind the fact that they have killed Americans on American soil, albeit not in any headline grabbing national event.

    Never-mind the fact that they have killed Americans around the world.

    Never-mind the fact that they have killed their own people in droves.

    No see you made up this magically irrelevant list of ultra-specific criteria and then when none of the "refugees" could meet all the items you pass them off as legitimate and safe and beneficial and friendly when they are none of them things.

    So I turned that liberal logic right around on you.

    No Nazi ever gassed an American on American soil, therefore Nazi's are ok people.

    See how that liberal logic works?

    Let me hit you with it one more time.

    No White police officer in Chula Vista, California has ever been unnecessarily rough by applying 15 pounds of torque to the left wrist of a 62 year Black male from Kansas City, Missouri during a traffic stop for an upturned headlight on January 17th between 4:40 pm and 5:00 pm in a leap-year during a rain storm, therefore no cop has ever mistreated a Black man.

    Bam.

    Liberal logic.

    Cant wait to see your response.
     
  19. Professor Peabody

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    Well, it's quite obvious that he was talking about the 7 countries since that is the topic of this thread
     
  21. Professor Peabody

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    And that's different from sources that get boatloads of money from Soros and his affiliates how?

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    :roflol:

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    :roflol: The fact you think it's not credible is what tells me it IS!
     
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    U.S. born don't need visas to enter the U.S., don't you know that?
     
  23. Professor Peabody

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    You mean like Obama did with the first US Ambassador killed along with three others since 1979, yea that was working.

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    The lefts temper tantrum continues.
     
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    The posts here show how far gone liberals really are. If they fight to allow terrorists in and their loved ones get attacked they still won't have a clue of how or why it happened but will surely blame the right. Seriously disturbing posts here.
     
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    No, it's not quite obvious at all when someone claims "No terror attacks since 9/11". Clearly there have been. And why wouldn't you be cautious about importing people from these 7 nations? They werent chosen randomly or with a dartboard and a world map.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump-administration-chose-the-7-countries/


    Any compelling reason why this should be ignored by the United States?
     

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