I am pro-gun - ask me anything...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TOG 6, May 4, 2017.

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  1. T_K_Richards

    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    They use acid to pull the numbers that were stamped into the metal. I don't know the specifics, but you're wrong.
     
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    No but now the criminal may have something to tell us about him. Which can lead to an investigation
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    That would be for the courts to decide.
     
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    I see you cannot prove your assertion. Very well.
     
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    Yes. They already can, actually.
    Google drive tanks .Com

    See what it nets you.
     
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    I can tell that appraoch seems to be working for you.

    But wouldn't you agree that since guns is an easy way of killing/severaly damaging other people that it could be a problem that not all are looking at it and acting like you?

    I would have to look up research, but my bet would be that many *fatal incidents have been acts of feelings, heat of the moment - etc.

    *Fatal incidents, where the usage and consequense have not been the result of clear cut self-defense scenarios.
     
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    And if all the evidence the prosecutor has against someone is he is the last legal owner of a gun used in a crime, every court in the US will throw the case out, as this, in an of itself, does not represent means motive or opportunity.
     
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    Of course it's easy, if you own a hammer, and a centerpunch. Grinding doesn't work well.
     
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    It is the basis for an investigation
     
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    Which of course is illegal
     
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    Cars could also be an easy way of killing people but we are not clamoring to ban/control cars.
     
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    Right OK there will be no other evidence of illegal sale. No money, no witnesses, etc. This is not a good argument. You are so far down the rabbit hole at this point its getting boring. I have already demonstrated that knowing who owns guns could prevent illegal sale. If you don't want to believe it that's your choice.
     
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    Banning cars is impossible without grinding an economy to a halt
     
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    Cars are controlled much more than guns and used much less in murders.
     
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    “Only two of the seven serial number characters could be restored”
    All this means is the person did not thoroughly grind the S/N off. A little more and/or better effort, and clearly it would have worked.
    Not having any experience in grinding metal, I would not expect you to understand.
     
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    Also,

    what do you think of the idea, that allowing your population to own guns, is actually contributing to support of your right as a nation (government) to go into the world and use guns (weapons) on the premise of self-defense. Warranted or not.
     
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    LOL did you read past the first paragraph?

    "Using a technique called electron backscatter diffraction, or EBSD, researchers at the Boulder, Colo., campus of the National Institute of Standards and Technology have been developing a novel way to bring back to life numbers that have been completely sanded away. "

    Sorry I didn't know you were a metal grinding expert. LOL
     
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    Right now, all the evidence you have for the arrest you spoke of is the last legal owner.
    The rest you suppose; your suppositions are insufficient to carry your argument.

    We've already determined that people willing to commit a federal felony by engaging in illegal gun sales are undeterred by the ability of the state to track the gun back to them; you have not explained how registration, which only allows the state to track the guns back to them, will change this
     
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    Of course, but being illegal will only stop somebody like me from doing it. It's not going to stop the gangbanger from it.
     
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    Sanding/grinding isn't the best method of obliterating the SN. Peening it works better, and probably peening and then sanding would be the best.
     
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    So pass an amendment. Article V has two whole methods.
     
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    Did you read what I quoted? It was past the 1st paragraph.
    Every method used to restore a S/N relies on traces of that S/N to remain.
    All traces of a S/N can be removed.
    And so, you'll know better next time.
     
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