Healthcare costs and the free market

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by ARDY, May 6, 2017.

  1. Vegas giants

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    Yep. As long as the will of the people is represented
     
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    I am better at this than you. Plus I have truth on my side. LOL
     
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    no idea why you say that? each person would get on average of $10k( what we spend now) and it would go down from there as prices dropped 80%.
     
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    wrong, essential features of capitalism are people shopping with their own money and suppliers competiting on basis of price and quality. Makes sense now?
     
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    The "will of the people" sent millions of Jews to concentration camps to die.
     
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    Might makes right is not the truth. It is savagery.
     
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    the money would be spent as people saw fit just like their food budget is spent as they see fit.
     
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    if the bill is nothing you have destroyed the free market and the incentive for innovations. NHS seemingly works only because they copy our innovations. We invent health care, they copy it. We have 80% of all recent medical patents. We created Europe after WW2, without our innovations they would have 30% of our standard of living. As it is they have only 70%. Without functioning as an old world theme park for tourists they would have 50% of our standard of living.
     
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    I disagree. I call it society....the basis of every major advancement the world has known
     
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    The will of the people stopped it too.
     
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    I am tired of paying for the entire planet. Let everyone else contribute to innovation thru subsidy from the government.
     
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    Are you seriously advocating might makes right? Or am I misunderstanding you?
     
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    you see, under capitalism you have to compete by having the lowest price possible if you want to survive. Now do you understand?
     
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    innovations come from Republican capitalism not govt soviet Solyndra subsidies. Do you know why?
     
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    Please explain how "might makes right" gave rise to calculus, for example.
     
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    But not before six million Jews had died. So much for the "will of the people".
     
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    It's hard to know what he's advocating since his position is based upon ill defined abstractions that cannot be pinned down with any kind of consistency or objectivity.
     
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    Remeber when those libertarians came to the rescue? LOL
     
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    Of course it does if the will of the people are represented. I do not believe the will of the people in germany wanted a holocaust
     
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    A great deal of innovation has come out of NASA, DARPA, DOD....etc
     
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    I have been as clear as day.
     
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    So, first, you're saying that might make right.

    Also, did society want a holocaust?
     
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    Are you saying that none of the people who fought in WWII were libertarians?
     
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    Might makes right as expressed thru the will of the people allowed a society to develop that could foster the sciences.

    What libertarian countries have created great advancements in society? LOL
     
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    So as long as the will of the people (however you define that) is represented, nothing done in that context can be morally wrong? Seriously?
     

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