Germany forges a united vote against USA in UN meeting at Thursday

How's that? Some countries aren't meant to share the costs equally?

 

There are no costs. There are no,payments. NATO is no bank account. The comtract says we should invest 2% of our GDP in our military by 2024. We dont have 2024 yet. We could easily reach that tomorrow though by simply putting our police and firefighter budget into defense budget. Poland and UK do that trick to reach it.

 

Who's the bully, Trump, or those who think they can tell us where to put our embassy?

 

We dont tell you where to put your embassy. We just show you how idiotic this is.

What kind of allies do you want? Submissive minions or selfconfident partners? Im proud that Germany critisizes US idiocy openly.

 

Stand up to Trump? For what? Putting our embassy where the law says it should go? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act
Stand up to Trump for him not bending over and kissing the Palestinians arse? I know why lefties love the Palestinians so much, they are alike with the whining, crying, and victim-hood.

 

In the grand scheme of things what does it matter? Who does it hurt? All it does is hurt the little feelings of a permanent victim group, the Palestinians.

 

Maybe the UN will kick the US out. We arent that lucky though.

The UN is a toothless organization whose greatest accomplishment to date is as a jobs program for diplomats and researchers.

 

The world should recognise Jerusalem as capital of the Jew State, then the Palestinians (who have long recognised the Jews in Israel do not want a two state solution) can get on with the next struggle, becoming equal citizens in a democratic Israel.

Trump is only doing what the jew fifth columnist next to him in the Whitehouse tells him to do.

 

Yep, I agree. It has become bloated and its' representatives are as self serving as those in FIFA and the Olympic committee had become. It should be disbanded and another group formed, where no one has a veto, and there aren't huge sums made from bribery and corruption.

 

No, the grander scheme of things is that Germany stands for international law while USA is isolated.

In the smaller sense of things, USA loses massive business. You already lost all defense contracts with UK and CAnada because your idiocy against Bombardier. Now you lose the middle east as trading partner as well.

Where you put your embassy is absolte irrelevant. Only thing necessary is to isolate you further.

 

What international law says Israel cant have embassies in their capital?



There would be ahoet term pain, but the US is one of very few countries that would be just fine without the rest of the world.

How many countries can say the same?

 

Do you really think Trump counted on Mexico to pay for the wall or is it just a trick to prepare American public for taxing imports ?

There is no way the GA will vote with the US on this and everyone knows it so the objective is diffrent.

 

Yes international law states East Jerusalem is occupied territory, it does not form part of Israel.

 

Do you have any idea how senseless that statement is? I do not think you know what the US is doing abroad:

1). Boycott Coca-Cola.
2). Shut down all the American military bases abroad.
3). Shut down all NATO basis everywhere.
4). Liquidate the petro-dollar.
5). Close all American embassies.

*** If the world does only those things you won't have a pot to piss in anymore.

 

Sometimes it's a bit scary to see how out of touch with reality some people are.

 

This international law called Geneva conventions

Article 49 (1) states

Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.[95]

Article 49 (6) states

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.[95]

Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel. Never was and never will be. And Germany was very clear as was entire EU.

When netanyahu was in EU last week, Mogherini told him infront press he should not dream too much and stay in reality.


And no USA does not fine without the world. You depend on imports since you produce nothing yourself.

You even had to stop your beloved execustions when German corporations blocked selling you the venom.

 

Short term pain, and it will hurt bad, while the job market adjusts for a few less jobs at Coke and Boeing. Instead those jobs are at toy manufacturers, at electronics manufacturers, and at the thousands of other businesses that will be needed to support the new manufacturing. We can domestically produce almost all of the raw materials that we need.

The rest of those things save the US money if they are shut down, not cost us any.

Now on the other side of the coin, economies throughout Asia collapse when they lose access to American markets. Europe will have to drastically increase defense spending and acquistions to make up for the US no longer being their backbone. They will also lose access to US markets for everything from aircraft to steam generators.

 

Israel disagrees with you.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/aboutisrael/state/pages/jerusalem - capital of israel.aspx

 

Me thinks Trump is just looking for an excuse to cut aid and deals thay doesnt profit the US, for the record, if the entire UN stands on its feet and claps for an Israeli Jerusalem it still wouldnt make a tiny diffrence because our problems are with the Palestinians not the world, obviously the UN will vote against the US simply with Arab majurity and its perfectly known.

 

And we disagree with Israel. And because of that wont open our embassy there. As will not a single European country.

What else will you quote next? North Koreas stand towards its right to have nukes?

 

So Germany gets to dictate where Israel puts their capital?

Those Jews cannot be allowed such freedom as to determine what city in their country to put their own capital? That duty belongs to Europeans, or just germans?

 

What they declare is irrelevant. To turn your question around: Those Germans cannot be allowed such freedoms as to determine where they locate an embassy? "

International law does not see Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Germany will not open its Embassy in Jerusalem and no other european nation will open an embassy there as well.

 

I didnt see anyone say Germany was going to be forced to move their embassy. Can you cite that source please?

So international law determines where a soverign country puts its embassy? Can you show me the resolution in which the UN determined that Germany was allowed to have its capital in Berlin?

 

You believe that if the US puts itself against the entire world it will not get come back?

 

Jerusalem is not part of the sovereign state of Israel.