House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. glitch

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    The quote is in my cite.

    And, no, you're just wrong - like Nunes lets us know that the Nunes memo was wrong.
     
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    You won't even quote it. His memo was absolutely correct and the footnote do nothing at all to change that.
     
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    NOBODY who matters agrees with you.

    Republicans on the Nunes committee don't agree with you.
     
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    Absolutely none of this means anything. If Page personally advised Putin, then, if anything, I would give him more credit as being competent at his trade.

    I am aware of all of the completely ridiculous assertions as to any of this remotely relating to collusion. This statement is exactly what I'm talking about as far as assumptions made based upon knowns. To any rational person, this Russian collusion theory is insane. You really think Flynn was involved in collusion, or do you think a minor infraction was blown out of proportion in an effort to gain leverage to perpetuate this insanity? Manafort's infraction was not even remotely related to anything collusion.

    When did interaction with Russia become questionable or illegal? Also, if Russia had completely owned the previous admin as far as foreign policy, wouldn't you want to surround yourself with folks that had knowledge that could help turn the tables? You folks were claiming that Sessions were a double agent. Do you understand the level of crazy any of this is? I know you have heard it repeated thousands of times to the point that it has lost its edge with you, but to us folks that don't listen to idiocy meant to persuade us to perceive something that is not, this Russian collusion theory sounds completely ridiculous.
     
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    Can you quote a GOP on Nunes committee that says the memo is wrong?
     
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    You're too far behind the Nunes committee and the FBI to try to catch you up with a post here.

    Remember there were multiple FISA warrants on Carter Page granted as a result of review by different FISA judges. Only one had anything from Steele, and the Steele dossier was only used to show that information was becoming public. It didn't depend on that information being correct and the court was notified of the political influence aspect - which wa

    Remember that Nunes and the Republicans agree the Nunes memo was in error on its one key claim.

    Remember that Nunes says he didn't write the memo and didn't read the support material.

    I know of nobody who thinks Sessions was a double agent. Please stop making ridiculous and unsupportable claims, including about me.
     
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    Nunes states that his own memo is wrong? OK I'm game. What's the source? I'd like to examine it myself.
     
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    I didn't know that his accountants had filed already. That's his own personal business, just like my own personal tax filings are not anyone else's. Sheeesh! Don't these rabid Democrats have anything else to rag about...?
     
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    You're not keeping up. I cited it above.

    His first statement that the FISA court WAS notified of the quality issues with the content of the Steele dossier was on Fox and Friends.
     
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    It would be a very good idea for both factions to be very careful about playing with the 'fire' of a real government shutdown. Personally, I couldn't care less -- but -- a lot of other people do, and the party that actually causes a shutdown is going to get skinned in November....

    Truthfully? Right now it looks to most Americans like the Democrat Party cares more about illegal aliens than it does about taxpaying citizens of the United States....
     
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    Sounds almost like you're trying to convince yourself. The memo is perfectly accurate.
     
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    The Politico article? I read that. It didn't say what you said it did. Please quote where Nunes said the Memo was wrong.
     
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    No, Nunes and the Republicans agree that the memo is NOT accurate.

    In fact, it is wrong in the only real point that it tries to make.
     
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    And yet you continually fail to show what specifically is in the memo that is not accurate or GOPs in the committee saying it is inaccurate. I suppose if you repeat it enough times we should just believe you.
     
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    it was about a 2 month story that sessions lied about meeting with Russian operatives which was loony tunes.

    also, arguing about the specifics of this investigation is like arguing which god pulls the sun across the sky. it's completely ridiculous.

    considering the lack of evidence doesn't even merit a slight consideration that collusion took place, taking collusion as your default position is laughable.
     
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    well, somehow they've repeated Russian collusion enough times that everyone forgets that there is absolutely nothing other than insanity that would make someone even consider its validity.
     
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    The memo says 'house intelligence' is an oxymoron.
     
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    The Nunes memo is about Carter Page. Nunes levels false and/or empty attacks at the FBI for their investigation of Page.

    There really aren't that many specifics to talk about. The one central accusation in the Nunes memo is about the Steele dossier. And, that has totally folded. Even Nunes admits the charge was bogus.

    The entire memo just isn't that long.
     
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    Maybe they should try a birth certificate ploy?
     
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    I have already done so, several times now.

    Not only that but there is an entire thread about the FBI denouncing the nunes pack of lies that you are participating in.

    Not my problem if you don't read the facts provided to you.
     
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    In other words you cannot refute anything at all about Carter Page.

    Got it!
     
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    Page was/is heavily involved with the Russians. Just ask yourself where someone like him found the money to start up his own Investment Firm? Odds are the FBI is following the money laundering trail in his instance. There is the possibility that he is the "insider" revealing all of the names and deals to Mueller.
     
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    Your baseless opinion in that regard is duly noted and until you can actually substantiate that bogosity it will continue to be accurately classified as just beating a dead horse.
     
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    Yes, we agree in principle that we have common ground in only wanting what is best for We the People. As an Independent I was a Bernie supporter and yes, I do believe he would have made a far better POTUS than either Hillary of the BLOTUS.

    Given the above I seriously doubt that we will find common ground when it comes to specifics on what is best for We the People. I am in favor of eliminating the SS income cap, ensuring that Medicare is available to all Americans of any age and setting up an a National Debt Surtax on all income over $1 million p.a. that is based upon paying it off over 20 years. The Surtax only applies if the National Debt is greater than zero. I don't see you ever agreeing to any of the above positions but I might be wrong.
     
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