Calling Jesus out on not letting gays into "heaven" & sending to "hell"

They are blinded by Satan because one of the core doctrines of true Biblical faith is admitting the Deity of Jesus Christ as God Incarnate.

 

Obviously I am ethically superior to God/Jesus - one of thousands of examples: if I was God/Jesus of course, if the #1 book about me, that I (well, God/Jesus in this example) inspired, said bad things about gays in dozens of places I'd of course condemn that book w/in the last 2000 years. Enough so that they'd remove those gay-hating parts from said #1 book about me. That's just common decency - but the "all-powerful/all-loving" God/Jesus have no common decency, of course.

 

It would be easier, far easier, if your magic invisible psycho all-powerful friend in the sky just took a mere 5 milliseconds out of his busy schedule of creating "acts of god" (deadly tsunamis, etc.) and just gave the world a courtroom level of evidence that he's the one true god. The fact that no "god" has ever done that, no "prophet" has ever done that, tells us that "god" is just like Bigfoot and Nessie.

 

He praised Wyrd of Gawd's Biblical knowledge, when WoG knows less than nothing. It was WoG who claimed the name "Jesus" was of recent vintage, and when I showed him extensive proof of the antiquity of the name, he continued in his error. Nothing he says is even remotely close to the understanding of Bible scholars, believers or disbelievers. If freedomseeker agrees with WoG on anything, he's just as wrong. I'm glad FS condemns Islam, but he'd make more sense if he evaluated Christianity by its modern example and not by the God of Moses.

 

In psychology we call that a Freudian slip.

I'm very familiar with secular humanists. Most are calm and sane who do not hate others regardless of spirituality or religious preferences.

 

Prove that "Satan" is more real than Bigfoot! You can't. I can show "videos" of Bigfoot, can you show the same with "Satan"?

Ok, I don't believe those videos, but at least it shows that people have more "proof" about Bigfoot than about "Satan". Jesus believed in "Satan", so Jesus was delusional.

 

I will, when they ditch the OT the next time they print the Bible.
The problem is that "Jesus" believed in the OT god, of course, so oooops, we have a problem.

 

I was kidding, of course.

I don't hate Christians - I love them more than, say, Muslims do - as if it was up to me I'd let ethical Christians into "Paradise", and avoid "hellfire".
I also love Muslims more than god/Jesus/Christians do, for the same reason as above.

 

Where does it say that in the Bible? In the Book of Frodo? In the Book of Sauron?

I admit that I get the fairy tales mixed up alot.

 

Don't base your overall beliefs on promises.

 

On what basis do you make that claim? On what basis is approval of homosexuality more "ethical" than, say, stoning them to death? Remember that you cannot use anything from Christianity to justify your answer, like equal rights, the brotherhood of man, or human dignity, or else the Christian view on homosexuality will be also valid. No other religion has those beliefs.

 

Make your book more ethical, more scientifically correct, and not hateful, and I'd consider becoming a disciple. Do you have the moral courage to do that?

 

Your vehemence and emotionally strong one-sided view of the Bible says otherwise.

 

I can't believe I'd have to explain that to ANYONE!! Wow!

Stop defending the barbarity, the savagery, of Christians/Jesus/God.

 

Seriously, I'd let them in - so of course I'm more ethical than god, Jesus, and most Christians because my experience is that most Christians won't answer "yes" to the question "if it was up to you, would YOU let ethical Buddhists into heaven and avoid hell".
They can't muster the moral courage to answer "yes", unlike Modern Secular Humanists. They are un-loving people, obviously. They APPROVE of torturing, forever, the Dalai Lama, just because he was born into the "wrong" religion. Sick. Perverse. Disgusting.

 

Moses and King Asa killed people who refused to accept their fairy tale. Yeshua didn't have the power to actually kill people in real time so he threatened them with being thrown into the lake of fire once they're dead.

Why do you believe in ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tales?

 

Max, if it was up to YOU would YOU let ethical Christians into "Paradise", and avoid "hellfire"? If so, then you are more ethical than Allah/Mohammad/Muslims.
What about ethical Muslims, as well? If so, then you are more ethical than God/Jesus/Christians.
What say you, Max?

 

Because Jesus has put the illogical "fear of hell" into his heart. Jesus is therefore evil.
He just doesn't understand science and the Bible enough to be able to see that one is superior to the other.

 

They sound as evil as Sauron, then.

 

Modern Secular Humanists believe in those good things, dude.

 

Equal rights? Equal frickin' rights!?
Here's "equal rights", Jesus-style!: First Corinthians 14:33–35 "....women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”

 

Ethnocentric means "racist". The Bible is racist. Christians are therefore indirectly approving of racism.
Modern Secular Humanists reject racism, however.

 

You mean like a supremacist, elitist club like "heaven" is?

 

As I posted previously, without God, your morality is just so much fart gas. Without Christianity, there's no condemnation of slavery, cannibalism, or the differential treatment of women and children in time of war. Your morality is wholly informed by Judeo-Christian values, but you pretend that you are superior to the Judeo-Christian God. You aren't. You are smug, arrogant, condescending, and have a completely unjustified holier-than-thou attitude. The best word to describe you is "sanctimonious". Well, guess what... pride is a moral failing, too!

 

So please tell us WHO said this incredibly prideful thing: "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
Then tell us who, instead, would have said "It's not all about me, no one can come to the Father except through morality and good works."

One is Jesus, and one would be me....guess which one is which, wsmith?