Calling Jesus out on not letting gays into "heaven" & sending to "hell"

First, I find it psychologically intriguing that you feel compelled to reply to my posts 2-3 times.

Second, loaded question. Heaven is not a contest. Getting into heaven or hell is not based upon a judgment. Yes, some, like yourself, believe it is, but it's not. It's an attitude. It's a belief in something. It's the willingness to accept, for lack of a better term, "God's grace" and stepping into the light or choosing to go into the darkness.

One aspect of your decidedly one-sided views of Christianity, the same view you broad brush all 2 Billion Christians and a few thousand different denominations with, is that you don't ask why an all knowing, all powerful "God" would create his most powerful "angel" knowing he would revolt on him. It's a curious story, but one I take as apocryphal, not literally. You know, like the Tree of Knowledge.

You've never answered questions about your extremely strong emotions against all Christians, even though you give Muslims and Jews a pass, and you don't have to. It's not required, nobody can make you, but it's obvious to me you have some very deep-seated reasons for those feelings.

 

I don't need some magic invisible slavery-approving man in the sky to tell me "thou shalt not kill"!!
I'm not as stupid as their god thinks I am.

 

I need to get a life.

 

QED about responding to the same post several times.

Sure, some people believe that. Not all. Just you and a few others.

 

You are simply not as caring as I am if you can't answer "yes, I'd let them into heaven if it was up to me". You failed the test, just like most Christians/Muslims do. You're better than Jesus, so stop defending him.

PS. all OT condemnation I apply to Jews, as well. If you don't believe that I condemn Muslims then you need to get with the program dude! Of my 32,000+ posts, I bet more than the 12,000 total post that you've made have been critical of Islam.

 

Again you distort and lie.

 

A no-Muslims-allowed zone ("heaven") is clearly a supremacist place! Can you, like me, condemn God/Jesus/Christians for the no-Muslims-allowed thing in "heaven", Max?

Heck, even NASCAR and the Republicans allows Muslims into their ranks.

 

I'm not going to let you get away with that - so tell us exactly where I'm lying. Exactly.

 

You mock and lie at the same time...how impressive.

 

Agreed. Life is too short to spend it focusing on the negatives. Are there emotionally-stunted asshats who hate others and are prejudiced against them while thumping a religious book to justify their bullshit? Yes, there are. Are most people like that? No, they aren't.

Living a happy and good life is easy, but some people want to make it harder than it needs to be.

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You are of course not wrong from your God-hating, self-righteous perspective.

 

If a belief was REALLY from an "all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving" being then it would be incredibly hard, if not impossible, to mock. But religions are so incredibly easy to mock (just look at the ridiculous things they believe in that list!) hat it's pretty obvious that there is no real such entity.

 

God hates gays, right? Or is the Bible wrong? Which is it?

 

In other words you can't counter my claim, Biblically, that your god is "genocidal, slavery-loving, gay-hating, women-hating".
What kind of person would stay in a religion like that?

 

Truth matters to me.

 

JESUS is the one who lies - he approved of Adam/Eve, but from Adam to Jesus is only around 4000 years (Biblical geneologies), so that says the earth is about 6000 years old today. Jesus was a liar.

 

Again, this is why I think you will end up in the news one day. You are so emotionally vested in your opinions, you do not want to see the opinions of others. Your choice just like it's your choice to spend hours and hours venting your spleen about Christians.

I've known a few gay people. Most you wouldn't ever know it except going to a party and seeing who they hang out with. A few were flamers, which was just as annoying as a straight couple who were joined at the hip and constantly involved in cutesy talk, PDA, etc. A few hated Christianity, but I think that was a reaction to being disowned by their strictly religious parents who bought into the whole "it's not genetic, it's a lifestyle choice" bullshit. Imagine being disowned by your own parents and told your entire being is a sin. While I disagreed with their hating Christianity (I saw it as displaced aggression AKA kick-the-cat-syndrome) I understood why they were upset. It'd be a terrible psychological ordeal to be disowned in your late teens or early twenties and not have a family to be supportive as a young adult.

 

To me too.

 

I'm not gay (not LGBTQ), but I am more loving than Jesus so of course I condemn the hatred that God/Jesus/Allah/Mohammad/Moses teach towards gays.

One does not have to be, say, Jewish, to be against Nazism.

People seem to think that to be against religion I must be gay, or have had some super-traumatic anti-religion experience as a youngster, such as being raped by a priest, etc. No, I'm just a caring person - unlike Jesus/Mohammad/Moses.

 

In the many replies you've done with me you seem incapable of engaging me on the merits of my arguments, logically....you just seem to resort to name calling, etc. That's because your belief system is a false one - examples: angels, the devil, demons, a talking snake, a burning bush are not actually real. They are no more real than, say, Frodo's magic journey, or Harry's magic wand.

 

Or I can just be super super intellectually lazy and "believe in Jesus", and be under the delusion that for 99.9999999999%+ of my total existence (counting the magic "after-life") I'll be living in a "perfect paradise". I'm not intellectually lazy.

 

Another example of you completely ignoring another person's post to impose your own opinions. I never said you were gay. I related an experience I had with people who hated Christianity. There are reasons why people are prejudiced be it hatred against Muslims, Blacks, gays or Christians. Hatred is not a naturally occurring emotional response. It has to be grown. Anger is natural. Someone or something pisses off someone else, bang. Anger. Hatred? That takes time to grow. It can start with anger, but like a seedling, it must be watered and nurtured to take root and grow strong.

I don't know why you have such strong emotional feelings about Christianity, so much so that you literally spend hours and hours posting about it, but quite clearly you do. It's a curious thing to me since I've spent a lifetime trying to understand human beings and the human condition.

 

QED of you posting repeated replies to a single one of my posts. Fascinating.

 

So tell us why you think that people would believe that a talking snake, and a talking 2000 year-old invisible zombie, are actually real.
Thanks.

 

I find you one of the most intellectual posters on this forum, so I like to counter your points when I disagree with them.