House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. Bluesguy

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    I would think he would be a hero for exposing the Russian collusion with State Department officials.
     
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    It's not useful here at all it is useful to Putin and the Democrats are playing right into him but then they owe him don't they.
     
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    No. The Warrant requester, in the United States must swear an oath before the court, that the information they are providing is accurate, complete and reliable.

    Americans do not like it when our government illegally spies on US citizens, these crooked officials are in heap big trouble.

    Rep. Devin Nunes: WE KNOW AG Lynch and Secretary of State Kerry Were Aware of Crap Dossier Used to Spy on Trump (Video)
     
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    Do you have gas? Is that causing your quarrelsome demeanor?
    Why wouldn't it be sloppy when the pols set it up to be done behind closed doors without effective oversight?
    I love how you guys get upset when your ox is being gored, but Joe American is subject to sloppy court proceedings that strip him of his assets in small claims court, his freedom in lower criminal courts (no trial, just guilty pleas), etc. Yeah, who cares about that stuff? The cop pulls you over and you fight the ticket while hapless Joe ends up paying fines he can't afford.
     
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    They were snooping and got wind of possible wrongdoing.
     
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    You said they waited, not they were forced to wait.
     
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    How many other FISA warrants have been challenged?
     
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    Waiting is waiting.....derp!
     
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    Debunked even though the FBI has no disagreements with the facts contained therein. Spinning and closing your eyes to the obvious. You need new talking points.
     
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    You don't know Trump was unfairly targeted. The court is secret and all you have is the word of a couple of GOP Congressmen. Did you give a rat's rear about FISA until Trump bellyached?

    Do you care about Joe Average getting squeezed by the court system? How about all the people jailed by the Republican "war on drugs?"
     
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    So now when anyone starts a buisnuiss that is probable cause to investigate them. This kind of think is pure evil.
     
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    The FACTS and REALITY still don't support your fallacious opinion in this matter.
     
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    Your abject denial of the DOCUMENTED FACTS is not my problem.
     
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    It was a perfectly legitimate question given that Page was in cohoots with the Russians and associating with criminals like Flynn and Manaforte.
     
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    Please explain exactly how that link and quote met any of this PF Rule criteria?

     
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    Short answer, this one won't. It's solid.
     
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    Ahh the weight of the evidence is surely pointing to that. What was the predicated crime? What so you have except the false dossier sought by the DNC and Clinton campaign through a foreign agent from Russian officials ?
     
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    There are many more layers of the onion to peel, but here’s where we are now: It increasingly appears that the Clinton machine was the secret, original source of virtually all the allegations about Trump and Russia that led to the FBI investigation.

    In addition, the campaign and its associates, including Steele, were behind the explosion of anonymously sourced media reports during the fall of 2016 about that investigation.

    Thus, the Democratic nominee paid for and created allegations against her Republican opponent, gave them to law enforcement, then tipped friendly media to the investigation. And it is almost certain FBI agents supporting Clinton were among the anonymous sources.

    In fact, the Clinton connections are so fundamental that there probably would not have been an FBI investigation without her involvement.

    That makes hers a brazen work of political genius — and perhaps the dirtiest dirty trick ever played in presidential history. Following her manipulation of the party operation to thwart Bernie Sanders in the primary, Clinton is revealed as relentlessly ruthless in her quest to be president.

    The only thing that went wrong is that she lost the election. And based on what we know now, her claims about Trump were false.

    Of the charges against four men brought by special counsel Robert Mueller, none involves helping Russia interfere with the election.

    And neither the FBI nor Mueller has vouched for the truthfulness of the Blumenthal and Shearer claims or the Steele dossier. Instead, the dossier faces defamation lawsuits in the US and England from several people named in it.

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/10/peeling-back-the-layers-of-hillary-clintons-deceit/
     
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    We don't know enough about the warrant to know whether or not a crime was involved, the evidence presented to secure a warrant was sufficient, or just about anything else. The process is secret.
     
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    Well you should have some predicate crime before you start spying on private citizens, you know probable cause, unreasonable search and seizure. You don't get to do it to try and find out what your political opponents are doing unless you are in Russia or the former Soviet Union or the former Nazi Germany.
     
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    Unbelievable! We are told Trump set this up e-i-g-h-t years ago! This is not credible.
     

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