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Why 'Climate Change' Alarmists Will NEVER Debate Skeptics

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Wehrwolfen, Sep 13, 2017.

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  1. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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  2. Lesh

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    A century would be far too late.

    But then dragging this out is the point of Deniers
     
    Lesh, Mar 25, 2018
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "dragging this out is the point of Deniers"

    Because?
     
    Thought Criminal, Mar 25, 2018
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I try not to engage the dotard on the corner yelling at cars either. They is NUTZ.
     
    Guyzilla, Mar 25, 2018
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  5. Russell Hellein

    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what the impact of this would be. Some believe it would generate a global winter. But I am not sure of that.
     
    Russell Hellein, Mar 25, 2018
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  6. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you just keep clinging to that false 'Hockey Stick Graphs' created by the paid for East Anglia Climatic Research Unit and the false science cabal. Then there's the data manipulation by global warming advocates in the Obama administration that was exposed. Evidence was obtained from internal documents at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) related to the controversy that erupted in 2007 when Canadian blogger Stephen McIntyre exposed an error in NASA’s handling of raw temperature data from 2000-2006 that exaggerated the reported rise in temperature readings in the United States. According to multiple press reports, when NASA corrected the error, the new data apparently caused a reshuffling of NASA’s rankings for the hottest years on record in the United States, with 1934 replacing 1998 at the top of the list.

    Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our ...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment...rst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
    Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our ... the scandal revealed by the leaked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic ...
    What we are looking at here is the small group of scientists who have for years been more influential in driving the worldwide alarm over global warming than any others, not least through the role they play at the heart of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
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    IPCC Researchers Admit Global Warming Fraud
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech...8-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud
    IPCC Researchers Admit Global Warming Fraud ... of the University of East Anglia ... engaged in fraudulent reporting of data to favor their own climate change ...
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    9 Things You Need To Know About The Climate Change Hoax ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-things-you-need-know-about-climate-change-hoax-aaron-bandler
    East Anglia's Climatic Research ... that only 43 percent of scientists believe in man-made climate change, ...The Climategate scandal proved that key data involving man-made climate change was manipulated. NASA also declared 2014 to be the hottest year on record – despite the fact that they were only 38 percent sure about it. There is no evidence that the Earth has been warming in recent years. The left likes to claim that 97 percent of scientists support the concept of man-made climate change. It's likely closer to 43 percent. The amount of Arctic sea ice has increased...Money from the federal government and leftist organizations fuel a lot of misinformation from man-made global warming alarmists..
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    The Role of Sunspots and Solar Winds in Climate Change ...
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sun-spots-and-climate-change/
    The Role of Sunspots and Solar Winds in Climate ... on Earth is that the sun glows ... a larger role in climate change than most scientists now believe ... scientists are the first to admit that they have a lot to learn about phenomena like sunspots and solar wind, some of which is visible to humans on Earth in the form of Aurora Borealis and other far flung interplanetary light shows
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    Russian Scientists dismiss global warming
    http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/03...ss-global-warming-predict-decades-of-cooling/
    Russian Scientists Dismiss ‘Global Warming ... by seven scientists affiliated with the RussianAcademy of Sciences ... Changes in the Earth’s Climate ...
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    Didn't I already make all those links and arguments irrelevant, as in there may have been a hiccup years ago, but this is now?

    Seems like spamming dead conspiracy theories over and over again.
     
    Beer w/Straw, Mar 25, 2018
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  8. Russell Hellein

    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    Multiple investigation of this showed the data was correct not manufactured.

    Ground may be moving on climate denial supporters.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-changing-climate-skeptics-001944867.html
     
    Russell Hellein, Mar 25, 2018
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    Lee Atwater, Mar 25, 2018
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fraud by East Anglia, NASA and other so called scientific gurus perpetrated on the public still stands and no new evidence from the Climate Change faction has been brought forward. People have been talking about Golbal Change/Global Warming for nearly 150 years. I'm not saying that reasonable enviromental restraints be taken to improve the air, limit what we put into the ground, or oceans. However, it must be noted that America cannot do it alone and countries like China, India, Brazil, Africa and Russia, even Europe should be held accountable for their excesses in pullution.
    The fact is I made my career in the corporate world by creating programs to enhance the environment logically while meeting EPA regulations and improving methods of diposing of corporate garbage.
     
    Wehrwolfen, Mar 25, 2018
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    Agreed, capitalism is going to have to be allowed to take itself down.
     
    Fenton Lum, Mar 25, 2018
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    We have no intention of participating, I wouldn't worry too much about our doing it alone.
     
    Fenton Lum, Mar 25, 2018
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  13. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    And next you'll start a conspiracy about little green men...


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy#Further_release,_2011
     
    Beer w/Straw, Mar 25, 2018
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    Far too late for what? Too late to solve the problem with today's technology?
     
    fifthofnovember, Mar 25, 2018
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  15. Russell Hellein

    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    There has been multiple investigations of East Anglica. What did those investigations find.
     
    Russell Hellein, Mar 25, 2018
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No difference at all. Man caused or man created. No difference of any sort.

    What hits me in my funny bone is that daily all of us live with changes in temperature that range far more than the alleged average figures. And we are not in danger. Temps at Death Valley, Ca can range from a low of 54 degrees to 116 and the public is not in danger of the planet melting. Matter of fact it was in 1912 that the death valley temperature of 134 was set. We normally are 20 degrees cooler.
     
    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are all far too fearful of greenhouse gasses. See post 91 on death valley.
     
    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    What gets my funny bone is that you think Donald Trump actually cares about people like you -he just wants your vote.
     
    Beer w/Straw, Mar 25, 2018
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  20. Lee Atwater

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    Actually, you are. You're just in denial about it.
     
    Lee Atwater, Mar 25, 2018
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  21. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As much as you fear climate, you will totally hate the coming warmer months.
     
    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I had a hunch you are a typical Trump hater.

    Definitely he wants my vote. Do I think he cares about me as one person, not one bit. Do I think he will work hard to restore what once was a good system here? Definitely since I see his progress.
     
    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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  23. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    Progress? You're just hoping.

    He already wants to, or has killed the head of progress for USA with drastic cuts to research and development across the board . But you don't care.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/what-s-trump-s-2018-budget-request-science
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you looked into this? I suggest you study some rather small books.
    1. A Time for Truth by William E. Simon. This book is very dated yet explains what happens in DC in a very clear way so you want to yell at the entire crowd in DC. And he lays out the case in a way where you will kick the Democrats to the curb.

    2. When Capitalism saved America by Thomas Di Lorenzo.
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    3. The forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes


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    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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  25. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This man founded the Weather channel. Let's get his take on this. We can't call him uneducated since he is a professional in this field.

     
    Robert, Mar 25, 2018
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