Kavanaugh, Ford set to testify in Senate Judiciary Committee hearing

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  1. dave8383

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    At this point, yes, it's he said/she said.
     
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    Her best best friend did not refute what she said. Her best friend had her lawyer respond for her and she said she did not recall.

    The rest of your questions are nothing but a fog machine and raw bs in an attempt to confuse the issue.
     
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    I will repeat what I said and that is no Senator on the committee ( or to my knowledge) accused Judge K of gang rape or the other rape). Those accusations came from other sources and whether you like it or not but if an accusation comes out it gets reported. Do you want to suspend the first amendment?
     
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    That was a hearing not a court case. If this ever went to court you would not want it to go to court because the FBI would have to investigate and witnesses would have to be interviewed and deposed. Mr. Judge who Dr. Ford says was in the room at the time of the alleged groping would very likely crack under cross examination.

    Careful what you wish for.
     
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    You really don't understand English, do you? Read again what you posted. Thanks for making us laugh.
     
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    If theybwerevthourough and theybappeared to then he lied when he said that he spent the time preparing his speech instead of watching Dr. Ford's testimony.
     
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    Ha ha that is cruel. I am sure that Trump knows the word money means.
     
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    She and the apparatus that surrounds her needs to be crushed. What they represent is death. Death of our civilization.

    "Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gaged [sic] your cruelty or your recklessness…. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

    I hate what's happening, what we are allowing. I hate it to the depth of my soul. It must be eradicated or freedom perishes from this earth. Kill it now!
     
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    That could be is very true. Mostbsluts are nice outgoing girls/women as I understand. Still Judge K lied about what the "club" name meant.
     
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    Flake is voting for Kavanaugh this morning as will all the Republican members. The ships of the GOP line will hold solidly.
     
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    You go and read it Inam on solid ground.
     
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    She is a clearly damaged woman that something was done to.

    You guys need to open up for some compassion man. This is the human experience and we are watching a wretched thing unfold before our very eyes.

    I do not, absolutely do not doubt she believes what she said. I do not doubt her honesty.

    I find your character assassination unhelpful, furthering the divide, vitriolic rhetoric and I refute it in the strongest terms possible.

    On the other side, I absolutely despise that this was done in this fashion to Kavanaugh. Do I want him on the court? Absolutely not. I think he's a shill and a sell out to the old sabre rattling neocons that he pushed the Patriot Act around for.

    However, this is a black mark that will never be removed from his record.

    The Senate, both sides, should be ******ned ashamed of themselves.
     
  13. Louisiana75

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    I'm not sure if I'm buying that. This is a woman who went on to earn several degrees, a PhD, a very successful career, one husband, etc. This is not the resume of someone traumatized. She stated she was so affected by it that she had multiple exterior doors on the house she built. So it is amazing she has been okay in her career as a teacher and student. She stated the fear of flying (which we know is BS) was stemmed from this assault because she didn't like to be in an enclosed area (cab of plane). More BS. How does she ride in a car which is much smaller.

    So from those lines, I am just not buying that.
     
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    Yawn. I find your dismissal lacking. Plenty of folks go on to get good degrees and careers while enduring abuse. Again, you and other rightists are applying your own moral hegemony over the feelings, emotions and reaction to abuse onto others.

    Check your bias at the door, please.
     
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    No, I'm being reasonable with my obvservations. She did make it sound as if her entire life was affected by this, her entire successful life. That doesn't really add up.
     
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    You're being unreasonable. There are plenty of folks who have lead successful lives and were assaulted. Claiming she hasn't become a quivering shell that is unable to even have a job as the bar standard for assault is preposterous.

    It does add up. Her commentary was honest. Her claims were believable.

    Shaming the victim here, and they're both victims, is unacceptable.
     
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    There it is. "Shaming the victim" claim. When a situation like this is he said/she said with no evidence whatsoever, of course people are going to look at other things to determine the validity of the claims; however, as soon as they state something about the female who is claiming assault, they are hand slapped with the "shaming the victim" wag. The left wants her protected and only handled with soft cozy gloved hands while they throw spears at Kavanaugh.
    I said nothing that shames her, I stated the reasons I didn't feel her claims of a traumatized life didn't add up.
     
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    You and others are absolutely shaming the victim. Go watch her testimony without your fox news hat. She had something traumatic happen to her, for sure.

    Again, you don't get to enforce a moral hegemony here. There are a plethora of folks that have been sexually assaulted that have successful careers.

    So yet. I will call you out for shaming her. Because you are diminishing her experience and applying a standard to justify your inane claims that doesn't stand up to any form of scrutiny.
     
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    Anyone who dare question her statements will be accused of victim shaming. She has the right to be questioned and scrutinized just like Kavanaugh. It's not as one-sided as you'd like it to be.
     
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    I don't want it to be one sided. I want their experiences honored. You want to slander and spew rabid idiocy you cannot support.

    That's not my problem. That's yours. You have a perception issue.
     
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    Nothing I said was anywhere near "slander and spew rabid idiocy". Just because I don't immediately buy her story doesn't = victim shaming and slander.
     
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    You used a faulty reasoning to determine her honesty. You were called on it. You stuck to it even when your assertion was called out as fraudulent.
     
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    Any human could tell he was sincere, while she was looking all sad with completely dry eyes.
     
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    Anything anyone says questioning her statements is not slander and victim shaming. Stop wagging your finger at people using common sense.
     
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    Not at all.
     

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