How can republicans be pro life?

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    That's not what I asked. I asked you to name (or alternatively provide a post) of someone thinking the unborn look like Gerber babies.
     
  2. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    I said "tend to", meaning that there are some who don't adhere to traditional values. Also, many on this forum voted for President Trump simply because they felt he was the lesser of two evils. It may not be the perfect choice, but they felt it was better than Hillary.
     
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    I was kind of hoping anyone would reply to this.
     
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    :) And threw their "values" down the toilet.....
     
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    OK, HE called it a "baby"......it is NOT a baby. The Gerber baby is a BABY. A FETUS is NOT a baby.


    As to :
    Kevo3 said:
    Does giving you permission to conceive a baby, then kill it improve your life? Or anyone's life?"""""""""""


    WHO hands out "permission" to conceive? The Reproduction Police?


    No baby is killed in abortion.

    And yes, women may kill their fetus, it has no rights and SHE does. SHE decides if it will improve her life.

    SHE is under no obligation to improve anyone's life.
     
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    [delete]

    Just remembered why I stay out of this subthread.
     
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  7. Maccabee

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    Have fun with your opinion.
     
  8. Maccabee

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    I try to as well.
     
  9. Kevo3

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    Fetus & unborn baby, same thing to me. But ok, does conceiving a fetus then giving you permission to kill it improve your life? Or anyone's life? Unique situations put aside (mother's or baby's health, rape, etc).

    The permission was referring to the abortion or killing of the baby (or fetus for you). I probably could've worded that better but assumed folks could put 2 & 2 together and assume the obvious. I re-worded it just for you.
     
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    I did not accuse you of making any argument .. this is something you have yet to do.
     
  11. Maccabee

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    Which I'm in no obligation to kake such an argument as that's not the subject of the thread.
     
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    Why are you still talking ? I told you how the lack of legal argument for abortion relates to the thread.

    If you have nothing to say then don't say anything.
     
  13. Max Rockatansky

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    Which was also the time religions started breaking their charity rules by becoming political.
     
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    You are pro-life if you see unborn human offspring as an individual human life worthy of protection.

    If you see unborn human offspring as disposable tissue ....then you may not think twice about killing it. So that's basically it. No mystery there.
     
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    Dude, equating "unborn" with "offspring" is a non sequitur.

    That said, Monty Python had a great song about your concept in the early 1980s:
     
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    Isn't it weird though that no one who liked your comment also liked mine, even though it 100% agrees? ;)

    I think its funny!
     
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    Only to people running from reality. Human fetus is human offspring. It's hard to face that mothers and fathers would advocate for the death of their offspring. It's easier to parse words and create false meanings to make it "ok"

    Medical Definition of Fetus. Fetus: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth.
    Definition of Fetus - MedicineNet
     
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    What don't you get about women DO NOT NEED PERMISION to get an abortion?

    Women are born having the right to their own body just as YOU have....want to give up YOUR right to your own body?




    I answered here, in the very post you quoted and you still couldn't see? :

    """"""WHO hands out "permission" to conceive? The Reproduction Police?


    No baby is killed in abortion.

    And yes, women may kill their fetus, it has no rights and SHE does. SHE decides if it will improve her life.

    SHE is under no obligation to improve anyone's life.""""""""""
     
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    Triggered?

    You didn't answer my question. Not even close. You should answer it or stop replying.
     
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    I answered your questions but you didn't answer mine:
    What don't you get about women DO NOT NEED PERMISION to get an abortion?

    Women are born having the right to their own body just as YOU have....want to give up YOUR right to your own body?



    Nor did you address the points I made.

    """"I answered here, in the very post you quoted and you still couldn't see? :

    """"""WHO hands out "permission" to conceive? The Reproduction Police?


    No baby is killed in abortion.

    And yes, women may kill their fetus, it has no rights and SHE does. SHE decides if it will improve her life.

    SHE is under no obligation to improve anyone's life.""""""""""



    If you have a question, post it and I will answer.....but that goes both ways...
     
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    You picked a word (permission) that triggered you and focused on that.

    You never answered my question, that I even re-worded for you, and I give up on you.
     
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    First, find the "Reply" feature.

    With this post you could've asked your question...why didn't you....?

    I answered your questions but maybe you just didn't like the answer or had no rebuttal????

    I see you like that silly word "triggered" as if it has meaning or a point....it doesn't.






    but you didn't answer mine:
    What don't you get about women DO NOT NEED PERMISION to get an abortion?

    Women are born having the right to their own body just as YOU have....want to give up YOUR right to your own body?



    Nor did you address the points I made.

    """"I answered here, in the very post you quoted and you still couldn't see? :

    """"""WHO hands out "permission" to conceive? The Reproduction Police?


    No baby is killed in abortion.

    And yes, women may kill their fetus, it has no rights and SHE does. SHE decides if it will improve her life.

    SHE is under no obligation to improve anyone's life.""""""""""



    If you have a question, post it and I will answer.....but that goes both ways...
     
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    You might consider looking up the definition of "offspring". You're saying the equivalent of the born unborn.

    off·spring
    ˈôfˌspriNG,ˈäfˌspriNG/
    noun
    1. a person's child or children.
      "the offspring of middle-class parents"
      synonyms: children, sons and daughters, progeny, family, youngsters, babies, brood; More

      • an animal's young.
      • the product or result of something.
        "German nationalism was the offspring of military ambition"
     
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    Offspring is within the definition of fetus I gave. What would you call the unborn....tumor?
     
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    It depends. Is it one-celled or multi-celled? What stage of development? You are taking the Christian religious point of view that people are "made" at the point of conception. I'm taking the position that people are grown. At some point those cells do become people, but a zygote is not a human being. It's human just like the cheeks cells you scrape off with a toothbrush every day, but it's not a human being.
     
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