I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

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  1. vman12

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    Yes because human beings always obey their overlords.
     
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    Oh c'mon man don't stop this fantasy I'm enjoying myself here.
     
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    Methinks the OP has his hands on some good stuff for his peace pipe.
     
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    No cooperate stooges. real protesting will be allowed.
    The first generation will be more like perfectly picked sheeple who will back the state and build the utopia with out question. Anyone who would even think of supporting the federal constitution would be shunned, and quickly relies if they want friends they need not play devils advocate for those who would wish to get a gun so they could murder everyone in the land or say those people (paid protesters) have the right to fight for their right to frack/
     
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    What kind of gulag are you thinking about to make sure the hoi polloi stay in line?

    I mean we need to plan for those contingencies. People can cause problems if you don't plan carefully.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    See the philosophy is simple, if you fully take care of your citizens and make sure they all have a living wage, full education, work in their field of choice, and universal housing, then they will devote themselves fully to the creation of the Utopian state.

    The scientists, work on making a healthier genome.
    The architects and builders build a completely green infrastructure, and transport system.
    Those working in renewable's will have a state to come to full of work
    Then those in creative fields like the arts will be able to thrive as well.

    Crime happens when people think they have nothing to lose, but everything to gain. Thats why violent criminals are poor, but when everyone is well off crime or violent crime does not happen.
    Outside business interests will hate it because they will see extreme levels of wealth with out exploration. They will be the ones trying to get courts to let them in, and the average person will want it to expand.
     
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    Yeah but surely you know no matter how well you treat the serfs some of them will be illogically discontent. Human nature is insufferable that way.

    Even if you feed them and allow them some of your beneficence, proletarians can be ingrates. The offspring of our faithful citizens, for example, could spread dangerous ideas that threaten the societal cohesion.
     
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    After learning US history and how sucky the rest of the country is they would never choose otherwise, just like people in the EU would never adopt an american system, it will be same with the state. Sure some of what they want might change, but I doubt they will want a total reversal.
    If anything I see the state expanding by people wanting to get in and taking over border cities and towns and voting for incorporation into this state LOL
     
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    Yes but what if their offspring started re-writing history talking about how cool it was to own guns and stupid stuff like freedom of speech?

    I mean the loyal citizens would know better but over time what if the children started trying to overthrow our carefully crafted utopia?

    Surely we would have to plan for that possibility in case, outrageously, they began to behave illogically and dangerously.
     
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    Execution of those who disagree is always an option.
     
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    It's something that must be considered.

    No matter how gracious you are to the riff raff, some will regrettably bite your generous hand.
     
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    people have all the first amendment freedoms.
     
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    Even if they question your outstanding leadership or start assembling to demand gun ownership?
     
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    They will be told to go to ND They can protest but no gun rights.
     
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    ND? Is that an official safe space area?
     
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    The district of columbia already attempted such an effort. It was found to be unconstitutional. Further, the district of columbia has lost so many court cases pertaining to firearm-related restrictions, it is now forced to issued concealed carry permits to every law-abiding individual that applies for one.
     
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    States do not have rights. They possess certain powers and authorities, but they do not possess rights. Even those powers and authorities are limited by the united state constitution.
     
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    North Dakota, the state I will take half of.
     
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    Which half will this be?
     
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    Ohhh. What if they start complaining about the cold and want to move utopia to Flo-rida?
     
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    Yet people pretend its the cities fault for not having good gun laws. Maybe the court should stop ducking them over. Especally since NYC sudo banned guns and they have not had an issue legally. Maybe its who is in the ethnic majority.
    The founders wanted us to be a loose federation of states not a strong centralized nation
     
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    the east half
     
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    Isn't the east half kinda racist?
     
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    idk I just want to be closer to civilization LOL
     
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    Closer to civilization? Would that be the civilization you are fleeing? Sounds like you just want a large gated community where you make all the rules.
     

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