Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Of course the first timers come in on a VISA then over stay. When we deport a visa overstay or a criminal alien, the only way back in is across the open border. The guy in San Francisco who killed Kate Steinle was deported and came back 5 times, the guy in Nevada or Utah who killed Sheriff's Deputies was deported 8 times and came back. The wall cuts off the route for deportees to return. Then there's the cost of doing nothing.........

    That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees.

    If they are coming here just for work, they will abide by most of our laws and never come in contact with the law. That means the good hard working people stay and the illegal criminal element gets tossed out and will play hades to get back in. I guess this just makes too much sense for the left.
     
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    Prove it then.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees.

    The economy gets worse fewer illegals stay, the economy gets better more illegals because they know they can get back in anytime.
     
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    Good story....but it’s mostly fiction.
     
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    Mexicans have been leaving the country more than coming in. Maybe we need the wall so we can exploit the Mexicans working here
     
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    If Trump has has way, we’ll need a wall to keep people in.
     
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    *The United States federal budget for fiscal year 2009 began as a spending request submitted by President George W. Bush to the 110th Congress in 2008.
    2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia*
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget
     
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  8. Professor Peabody

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    Cited from a left leaning source. Prove it wrong.
     
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    You're very confused.
     
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    Wikipedia is confused then, or you’re really poorly informed.
     
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    Then you forgot to “ cite it “. Hint, when you cite a source, you are required to actually indicate the source and address in this case.
     
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    Any ideas why Google doesn't know anything about the term, "Trump Tower letters?"

    What is the proof of this?

    Just based on Cohen's confession? Surely you can't be serious. Since when is a confession of someone proof that another person is guilty?

    What did he steal? And what "confidential info" are you referring to?
     
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    Well, it’s been cited over and over again by lots of people.
     
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    Which section of my post are you referring to?
     
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    Mainly those relating to Cohen. It’s common knowledge amoung most people that Cohen should have all the facts. He’s not in jail as we speak for good reason.
     
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    So the fact that he is in prison proves the Trump is guilty? Surely you can't be serious!
     
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    Now ? My sources say it doesn’t begin till he surrenders to federal authorities on March 6. Anyone can see he’s primed to testify to anyone who will listen.
     
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    That drugs get smuggled through the border walls ports of entry or around the wall?
    That people get smuggled through the border wall ports of entry.
    That people can't go around the wall?

    You think a wall at Mexico border stops them from coming via the oceans, the gulf, or the northern border?
    If so, prove the wall at Mexico border will stop all other points of entry.
     
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    YOUR sources? You mean just the news?
     
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    The gulf ? Check out the distance from the Baja to California. For many, the ocean is the new desert. No wall will help you there. Of the thousands of small boats that travel theses waters, it’s impossible to check them all.

    Container ships ? Mexico has six container ports, and there are no walls.
     
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    People are talking.......you’ll find out when he shows up in congress.....
     
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    So Cohen's testimony will prove that Trump is guilty?
     
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    You wouldn't say that it works every time though would you?
     
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    And they just arrive on the coast of California undetected?

    Why do you mention container ships?
     
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    Are you saying that it is fiction that aliens who are deported can't come back in through a port of entry?
     

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