Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Both. Every representative knows it . You will not get one REPUBLICAN congressman agree with the idea that any new walls are being constructed NOW
     
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    Can you quote Trump saying that "new walls are being constructed now?" Or words to that effect?
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    It won't tell you personally , but every new construction requires zoning applications and property acquisition and quick claim deed tansfers. You do get that. Plus projects like this require all sorts of extraneous public records forms like this.https://www.blr.com/Environmental/E...ponse/Environmental-Impact-Statement-in-Texas. Do you have an idea how much public information there is available for NEW construction verification ? YOU can't be serious that we might not know now. You need to at least pretend you live in the real world and not Trumpville.
     
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    You seem to be questioning that we might not know if they ARE building somewhere. I never claimed anything other then, we'd know if they were.
     
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    “We’ve already started building it,” Trump said in West Virginia on April 5. “We have a billion-six. We’ve started building it and fixing miles and miles of wall that’s already up — and fence. And we’re going to have our wall.”

    “We’ve started building the wall,” he proclaimed in remarks with Baltic leaders on April 3.

    “We started building our wall,” he said in Ohio on March 30. “I’m so proud of it. We started. We started. We have $1.6 billion, and we’ve already started. … We have $1.6 billion toward the wall, and we’ve done the planning.”

    By contrast, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan, founder of the House Freedom Caucus, said of the omnibus bill, “The one thing we don’t fund is the one issue we all campaigned on — a border security wall — and that is not in the legislation.”

    And here’s House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi’s version of what the bill does: “Democrats won explicit language restricting border construction to the same see-through fencing that was already authorized under current law.”

    Those seemingly conflicting statements may lead to some confusion. One of our readers asked, “Has Trump started building the wall between USA & Mexico?”

    The short answer is that the omnibus bill funds some new fencing, though far less than Trump had hoped it would. The new barriers are also not the kind of solid, concrete wall Trump once described during the campaign. Nor is it anything like any of the prototypes Trump visited in mid-March.

    Trump and others in his administration are calling what is going up “the wall.” The omnibus describes it as “fencing.” Some may say that’s a matter of semantics, and indeed many officials and journalists use the terms interchangeably. But Trump has often insisted there is a difference between a fence and wall, and that he’d be building a wall.
     
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    Yes, this newly fixed fencing will form part of the wall plan! Trump didn't say that they're building NEW wall! You're not questioning the "fixing" part are you?
     
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    I'm, not talking about building NEW, I'm talking about repairs to existing.
     
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    What's your point ? It's not rocket science. DHS request monies for projects they need with evidence backing up their requests. If the evidence is there, they approve it. They have every year. Trump is making a request outside the expert advice and with no evidence. He doesn't even read his own briefings to see what the agencies need.
     
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    And how do you know what they have and haven't approved?
     
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    Republicans approved the same as Dems for two years minus 5 billion for wall. They agree Trump is FOS wanting a wall.
     
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    How do you know what DHS have and haven't approved?
     

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