Poor people having too many children they can't afford

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Pay lazy welfare bums to just lay around and conceive more welfare bums?

    They need to work for their bread
     
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    They do! But if you realize that they work at minimum wage and need assistance you might have to have some empathy and you wouldn’t want that. You would rather fight for the billionaires not to raise their salaries of the workers so they can have more . Shame on you
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A. When a poster has to start bringing up their personal life as if it proves something, you know they have nothing.

    B. I keep bringing up your :


    """"The poor" tend to have many traits in common ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc. ----""""""""""


    ...because another poster didn't believe me when I said that's how some posters feel about the poor. That poster hasn't been able to admit I was correct. :)

    What? Are you embarrassed by it now? That would be a good sign that you were realizing what a silly, hateful, untrue statement it is... !!!

    Remember you claimed you and another poster were poor so it would be like calling yourself and them lazy, stupid, unmotivated, undisciplined, and drug addicted which you claim you aren't so YOUR statement is false:)


    Glad to help :)




    That's the most ludicrous statement I ever saw...equal opportunity ???

    Ya, like how equal it was when Wealthy Gods committed bribery and money laundering to get their stupid , lazy, unmotivated , undisciplined kids into college?

    The poor do NOT have THAT opportunity...


    The chronic poor have problems, that's why they're poor. It does not reflect badly on them that they were not born rich


    Those that are born rich and have "problems" have no excuse.
     
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    How do illegal aliens who dont speak english and do not get welfare manage to live?
     
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    You're finally catching on! Yes, the chronic poor tend to have many traits (or "problems" as you call them) in common (as you keep quoting) ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc.

    Anyone who is able to lift themselves up by their own efforts, and without the crutch of government aid, is to be admired in my opinion. Those people are not even remotely in the same category as the long term and generational welfare recipients or "the poor" as a class (or the "chronic poor".) There is a helluva lot of difference between someone who is "not born rich" and someone who relies on welfare to care for them and never lifts themselves up to something better. Even worse is those people who rely on welfare to care for themselves and never lift themselves up to something better and decide to have children.

    People have tried to take this discussion off on so many tangents. The original point is still how to discourage "poor people" from having "children they can't afford".
     
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    that mathematics determine a person’s ability to afford a given thing? do pay attention!
     
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    please read the thread title and get back to me.
     
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    very easy to be generous with other people’s money...
     
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    There is no economic basis for that. Just your right wing bigotry in modern times.
     
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    Which refutes , once again, your contention that the poor are lazy, have low intelligence, are complacent, lack discipline, and have a weakness for drugs and sex.





    YUP, there are all kinds of people with those traits, not just the poor.
    laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc.

    Like the wealthy crooks who had children that they had to commit crimes for because their kids showed laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc.




    Which YOU want to do by denigrating and insulting them..... a really bad "solution".



    YOUR quote:
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    You doth protest too much, and your argument is disingenuous.

    Among other things, you would have to live under a rock to have never heard of "Daily Stormer" or to be unaware of the controversial connection between Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger / eugenics.

    I think it is unfortunate that eugenics is largely so misunderstood because the concept was bastardized so horribly by the Nazis, and now people tend to hear "eugenics" and think "Nazis".

    "The poor" tend to have many traits in common ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc. ---- so if discouraging them from reproducing decreased these traits on our population, would that really be a bad thing? (To be clear, nobody is advocating for putting the poor in gas chambers or any other Nazi atrocities.)""""""""
     
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    Dont misquote me

    I did not say every child has EQUAL oppertunity

    Obviously children of rich people will have more oppertunity than poor children

    But everyone has a chance to lead a decent and comfortable life if they make wise choices
     
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    How idiotic is it that those who call the poor """The poor" tend to have many traits in common ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc.""

    expect those types of people to get out of poverty on their own...it's simply an exercise in cruelty (and self righteous, smugness which helps them feel better about their lives that are impoverished in soul...
     
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    No economic basis for working?

    Dont make me laugh
     
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    They will not learn from their mistakes if bleeding heart liberals rush in to reward them for failure
     
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    Equal opportunity does not mean equal results.
     
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    only Capital has to circulate under Capitalism; not fools or horses.
     
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    a platitude?

    equal protection of the law is the equal opportunity.
     
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    And I'm sure you never miss lunch.

    once again, it's your contention "" that the poor are lazy, have low intelligence, are complacent, lack discipline, and have a weakness for drugs and sex.""

    If they are all of the above how do you account for those who have made it out of poverty and how do you expect those who have those characteristics to ever find their way out of poverty....?
     
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    Opportunity is not equal for all...
     
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    Are you saying those are all inherent traits and unable to be changed by behavioral choices?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    How idiotic is it that those who call the poor """The poor" tend to have many traits in common ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc.""

    expect those types of people to get out of poverty on their own...it's simply an exercise in cruelty (and self righteous, smugness which helps them feel better about their lives that are impoverished in soul...




    So you want the "reward" to stop...if you're referring to Welfare then what should we do with children ( those PRECIOUS LIVES the Anti-Choicers go on about) of those people....just cut out the "reward" and let the kids starve...a totally righty idea ..
     
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    Opportunity is what you make of it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    And I'm sure you never miss lunch.

    once again, it's your contention "" that the poor are lazy, have low intelligence, are complacent, lack discipline, and have a weakness for drugs and sex.""

    If they are all of the above how do you account for those who have made it out of poverty and how do you expect those who have those characteristics to ever find their way out of poverty....?




    FFS it was the poster Libby who said that about the poor....read a bit before spouting off...
    DUH, I don't refer to myself as "your"...
     
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    What a totally Norman Rockwell trite meaningless overused and idealistic phrase that has no relevance to the real world where many have "opportunities" handed to them from birth and others have to claw their way to "opportunities".
     
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    Held true then holds true now it is what you make of it.
     
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