Last remaining Far-Right groups banned from Social Media.

That explains why so many posts from patriots are censored on this forum whereas right wing posts are always allowed. Yup, McCarthyism lives on.

 

Most political groups post online to make suggestions as to how to improve society, at least as to how they see fit. And there is nothing wrong with that. We all want free expression and creative ideas to improve society and make for a better world.

The problem here is that right wing radical extremists are not seeking to improve society, they are seeking to destroy it. Death, decimation, destruction is what they want and they don't give a damn as to how many deaths these extremist actions will cause. Allowing such hate to be spread in a format like the internet will only lead to the same depredations imposed by the Nazis in Europe. We have already seen several outbreaks of violence and death in the USA and in Europe which were caused by disciples of these violent far right radicals. We have had several threads on the topic so that you can see for yourself what happens when such hate is allowed to be spread unfettered. Had any of you of the far right been victimized by these hate filled radicals, you would likely agree that the internet has a right to stop the hate and treason. You would calling yourselves victims rather than be calling them anything like that.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

 

Censorship under Stalin. Censorship. Censorship is the act of filtering information that people receive in order to show only what the leader wants shown. Joseph Stalin used censorship as his greatest weapon against the people of his country, keeping order, and keeping the people blind to the harsh realities of the gulags and Stalin's brutality.
http://worldlitcblock.blogspot.com/2014/12/censorship-under-stalin.html
Sound familiar?

 

Same thing we saw under Hitler and McCarthy.

 

So will they also remove the social media pages of the Irish terrorists after their latest murder?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/world/europe/lyra-mckee-northern-ireland-violence.html

 

You don't really think that the information we receive today is "unfiltered" by the MSM gatekeepers of information do you?

 

Filtered?

Ha, ha ... MSM is full of schitt. Like the time it told us Assad gassed people and presented photos like this of a child mourning dead parents:









then, after the MSM stirs up pro war hysteria and so many pro war delusionals demand that the USA intervene (and after Trump dropped bombs on Syria) we get the TRUTH that this photo and the news were FAKE NEWS:







See? The child wasn't mourning the loss of parents but was posing as if the parents were dead. Total FAKE NEWS thanks to the pro war traitors in the MSM.

 

In fact the Weimar Republic did have hate Speech laws and was enforcing them. Hitler used those same laws later to destroy opposing points of view to his advantage..

"Inevitably, the Nazi party exploited the restrictions on "free speech" in order to boost its appeal. In 1925, the state of Bavaria issued an order banning Adolf Hitler from making any public speeches. The Nazis responded by distributing a drawing of their leader with his mouth gagged and the caption, "Of 2,000 million people in the world, one alone is forbidden to speak in Germany."

Mark Steyn: The idea that "hate speech" led to the Holocaust is seductive because it's easy: If only we ban hateful speech, then there will be no hateful acts. But, as Professor Anuj C Desai of the University of Wisconsin Law School points out, "Biased speech has been around since history began. As a logical matter, then, it is no more helpful to say that anti-Semitic speech caused the Holocaust than to say organized government caused it, or, for that matter, to say that oxygen caused it. All were necessary ingredients, but all have been present in every historical epoch in every country in the world."

https://www.steynonline.com/8242/bray-new-world

We already know that anyone can claim 'the far right' is dangerous whereas 'the far left' is some benign social movement intent. on Social Progress. It is also 'Islamophobia' to criticize Islam, according to the UN advances but that would be acceptable to leftists. Many Europeans are very disappointed they don't have the protection of the US Constitution.

 

It will upset those who believe in the freedom of speech. Apparently you are not one of them. Ironic when a fascist calls others fascist.

 

It’s better to allow these far-right groups to keep posting - makes it easier for the FBI and international law enforcement to track their members.

And yes, you are being tracked when you belong to those groups.

 

Far right financed by reichsters on Wall Street:

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler.pdf



Re Islamophobia, it is the right wing that immediately cries "anti-semitism'' when anyone dares to criticize Israel even though the criticism has nothing to do with religion. Many people in the USA and the world at large are also disappointed that their speech isn't protected by the Constitution as well or that the so called protection is theoretical at best.

 

One of the problems with these groups is the way they manage to confuse people that they are not all the things they are.

Here is Another Angry Voice describing how they do this and expressing concern that with all the political issues which need our attention, people are instead being drawn to hate groups due to the Internet. Britain First is one of the groups apparently banned.

You can get more information on Britain first at the link https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2014/06/12-things-britain-first.html

That is what I think is one of the most dangerous things about these groups. I was never that bothered about Stormfront because they were absolutely obvious about who they were. These newer sites know that if people come to the site and see what they are genuinely like, they will be off so they try to present a face of being in some way of merit until they have them bit by bit agreeing with them.

I mentioned our MP who was murdered. The man who murdered her was screaming Britain First as he killed her. I know that on this site there were people expressing empathy with him.

lhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jo-cox-murder-trial-tommy-mair-britain-first-thomas-mp-killer-court-latest-a7416021.html


Here is another group National Action. I think this group itself has been banned and presumably banned from Facebook as well. Here they were stopped from killing another of our MP's because one of them approached the group 'Hope not Hate' and told them what was going on or we would probably have another dead MP. No doubt that would get them all started thinking they are so cool.



These are the type of people some here are supporting. They offer nothing but hate and violence and I suppose a feeling of not being alone for those without friends.

 

Could it also explain the "need" for repressive holocaust denial laws in almost 20 democracies?

 

Yep, and now we're seeing it under the self-righteous left.

 

Just one of the lies spread by Britain First Facebook page and shared thousands of times including in this forum by the usual suspects: Not only was the country wrong but the liars said that the same footage was filmed in Bradford and Birmingham

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155979876221939&_rdr

And the usual responses from the usual suspects in the comments

 

We see it even more (especially on this forum) every day from the cry baby far right who always plays the antisemitic, antiwhite, and victim card.

 

Let them keep doing it..they are only hurting themselves. Stopping free speech is the opposite of liberalism. Every BS move like this by the left makes trumps 2020 run easier. He already made a fool of them with the myelled report. Justin smolette, a lib, gets away with crime. Right wing speakers getting banned from colleges. Teachers taking kids Maga hats. Keep it coming!

 

Yes, yes, because Facebook kicking out nazis makes me one.

 

Stopping free speech such as comments by patriots on right wing forums like this? or suppression of free speech by right wingers in Liberty College, Bob Jones U, or BYU? racist crimes such as those committed by Jacob Wohl?

 

Mostly referring to colleges...Ad far as this forum goes I feel like it's very unbiased with fair mods

 

True. I do not like one bit things said by Democrats. I however do not want them banned. I could click ignore and personally ban them, but do not do that ever.

I find things said bad about Trump to amount to hate speech. But believe in the right to free speech. Even things I hate to read still need to have a free venue. Freedom means nothing when you ban others.

 

Not at all correct. I see alleged right wing posters getting banned here.

 

I certainly am no friend to Nazis but want to learn more about your views.
Nazis did this
1. Healthcare for all German citizens free
2. Paid 2 week vacations for Germans
3. Massive building projects creating lots of work for Germans (One example being the massive field at Nuremberg Germany. )
4. Rapid recovery from a very staggering and deep depression in Germany.

Most of the evil centers around the Jews. Jews were a tiny part of their population. Germany was anti Jew long before Hitler showed up.

German Stadium

 

20 million+ dead Russians might disagree. But it's interesting - and very telling - how willing you are to minimize the evil that was the Third Reich...

 

I think it is important to remember this is UK sites not US. Indeed Trump has been a Britain First fan tweeting some posts of Jayda, now in prison.
There has been a lot of anti Government stuff going on. I mentioned one killing of an MP and the intended of another. In fact if you look at that video you will find that no one was against a nice little killing, they just thought that it would be far better to kill a Jew rather than a somewhat boring member of Parliament. Any Jew would do they said, even a baby. I think that was the first British extreme right group to be banned. No doubt you guys will be appaled at them not being allowed free speech. I mean they didn't kill any Jews. They just spoke about doing it. That is their right in a free country they will think.

So lets look more at what our Members of Parliament have been putting up with and lets remember that if it is not Facebook doing it on their own which is what I was led to believe, then it probably comes from our MP's...Lets see how things are with them with this delightful new far right. One thing that has come out is that women get the brunt of it. This is nothing new. The cowards go after Muslim women rather than the men as well.

https://www.rt.com/uk/357752-death-threats-mps-britain/


Hah, so now we know why not much work is done in Parliament as they are having to learn and practice Israeli Mossad street fighting techniques. They have to put up with being called Traitors if they have a different view to the one calling them it. And those who call them 'traitors' are so proud of themselves. Our MP's are afraid. Lets be clear on that.

This one has been sent to jail. I bet all our far right posters will be disgusted. What has Britain come to sending people to jail just for speaking their minds.
It was only yesterday he got his sentence

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexiteer-who-sent-death-threats-14426531

These are just a taster and there are other concerning things for the UK to think about like those going to Eastern Europe to train with Generation Identity which I think lots of the far right here love....and then of course there is that American extreme neo nazi group which lots of Brits are known to be chatting up on the web. (The name escapes me.)

If people's lives are being threatened, do not be surprised if they decide to try to stop more joining in. - that is if it was UK MP's and not Facebooks own decision which is what it was supposed to be. What good could possibly come from banning such people? Their voice must be heard or they will go somewhere else and shout even louder. The reason why some people may want to lower their voice is for the very simple reason as one man said who infiltrated them for a year

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/26/undercover-far-right-hatred-racists

That is the part which either people do not know or want to keep secret. Like I said earlier one of the biggest dangers of the new far right is that they hide who they are. They present themselves as working for some noble causes. This is because they are not stupid and they know most people on first meeting them would run a mile if they disclosed who they really are. So they present some image, a starving dog was one, which most people will not like, especially in Britain and then they gradually get them in and on hearing things again and again they start to believe them. As the author says above

Another trick I have read they have is always asking for the most extreme. Then people think they have a good deal when they get something much more extreme than they would have agreed to at first but less extreme than what was being threatened. They think they have made a compromise but bit by bit the new norm of the ever to the right thinking takes a hold.

I remember years ago, the far right started coming on forums and saying that people must listen to them or they would just get worse. The very same excuse as they are using now and people did listen and they did get worse.

Ten years ago 99.9% of people on this board which was then an American Board like it is now, would have been appalled at the hate speech which goes on. They would never have believed it would happen...but a little bit at a time, demanding people listen to them or they will get worse, they have managed to move thought a massive amount to the right.

I don't want to live in a fascist state where people are afraid all the time, where our MP's need to learn Israeli Mossad Street Fighting Techniques because some people prefer the gun to the ballot so really I have no problems with these sites being banned. That will stop some people being exposed to unthinkably toxic ideas and hopefully keep us all safer. The fact is they are bullies and bullies only stop bullying when they are confronted.

That being said a firm look out needs to happen to make sure inappropriate bannings do not happen to.

Good night