Last remaining Far-Right groups banned from Social Media.

Yes, our hearts bleed for poor ol' Augusto. He was such a gentle, misunderstood soul...

 

https://www.britainfirst.org/
They seem harmless to me

Liberals are such crybabies

 

Wrong. The German Healthcare and social systems were created under a guy named Bismarck during the Empire about 50 years before the NAZI showed up.
The health care system that was created is called the Bismarck System, the oldest in the world and still doing outstandingly well.

 

As a German I find your post very disturbing, which you may take as the understatement of the century.

 

Their (far left groups) strategy is to overthrow a society by means of severe (anarchic?) disruption rather than violence. Passive protest is equally as threatening to a stable society as violence is.

 

What, you think he should have just allowed the extreme Left to destroy Chile then? A lesson for you . . . extremism begets extremism??

 

Lets be clear what he was talking about so that we do not come up with more untrue fantasies. The protests he was talking about are Extinction Rebellion. These are people who wish to save our planet from extinction. The organisers are educated and enjoy the 'benefits' of capitalist society - absolutely nothing to do with 'far left'. One of the people who glued herself to something recently and got arrested was one of the people who worked on the 2015 Paris Climate Accord. These are people who know the dangers we are facing, who know we are already going through several extinctions every day - be they insects or whatever. These are people who know how all the ecological systems work together - let bees or worms die and we see our food system destroyed. These are people who have listened and heard that we have at most 12 years to get the earth in order. These are people who know that that estimate like all the other estimates is very likely wrong. We very likely have less. These are people who know that from the time we knew that the world was on a precipice we have done almost all the damage to this planet. These are people who know it could already be too late and if we do not get fighting and do what is necessary for the planet their will be no life for people born today.

Further these are people who know that the reason why work has not been done is because our plutocracies are ruled by the people causing this damage. They have come up with a plan to save our planet and as our present system of Government will take us to the Abyss, as having a system where people may damage the planet with no come back, having a system where those who do damage the planet, just for money, have the most say over our Government, they also believe that must change. They are confronting those who are destroying our planet where it hurts most, in their wallet. That is their intention because only then will our Governments start to listen and we can possibly and only possibly still have a chance to save the world for the children who are going on strike from school so that we will leave a planet for them. They have spent 2 years working to come up with what they believe is the best strategy of saving our planet. Nothing absolutely nothing is more important than this.

In this post Mr Truth describes the difference between the hate groups which have been banned and those like Extinction Rebellion who are working to try and create a possible outcome to save the planet and those who are simply peddling hatred and whose base plan is to create ethnic disunity at a time we as never before need to come together

Further the hate people even deny that there is any danger to the planet they have their heads so stuck in the sand by their prime motivation hatred. At a time where as never before we need to work together to produce a future for the children all over the world now going on strike to demand of us adults that we do our job as carers and make sure their is a planet for them to be able to live, the haters are working to create ethnic hatred and division. There is no comparison. As Mr truth said,' Stop the hate before it is too late'.

 

The Post to which you responded contained simple, irrefutable & inconvenient facts. Germany's National Socialists did bring Germany from starvation, chaos & anarchy to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

There would already have been 20 million+ dead Soviets as Stalin was preparing to invade Europe anyway. The Germans simply initiated a preemptive attack to defend Europe from Stalin's massive, offensive military build up.(1), (2)

I do not see where "Robert" was in any way trying to minimize "...the evil that was the Third Reich" any more than you are trying to minimize the greater evil that was Stalin's longer & more horrific reign of terror.



(1)"Germany invaded to pre-empt imminent Soviet attack"



(2) "Did Stalin Plan to Attack Hitler in 1941? The Historiographical Controversy Surrounding the Origins of the Nazi-Soviet War"
http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/art...urrounding-the-origins-of-the-nazi-soviet-war

 

100% nuclear grid NOW. Household solar.

Problem solved.

 

Why don't you show us a few of them?

 

The Fox network (like its subscribers) laughably feels it is "fair + balanced".

 

Please face facts.
Bismarck's health care system was like every other system in defeated Germany just after WW 1 & during the Weimar years. They were in complete shambles as Germany suffered widespread starvation, hyper-inflation, and near total anarchy.

I lived, worked & studied in Germany in the mid 1970s and came to know many older Germans who survived WW 1, the Weimar years, WW 2 & the post war, ruthless Allied plunder, brainwashing (denazification) & occupation of Germany. They had no idea that the same political party largely responsible for Germany's "Economic Miracle" would also be largely responsible for the horrors to follow. Hindsight, as you know, is 20/20.

I feel somewhat certain that if you or anyone had endured the misery, humiliation & deprivation of post WW 1 Germany, you or anyone would have supported the political party most likely to save Germany from chaos and the only effective choice at the time seemed to be the National Socialists.

Since this thread has to do with free speech & censorship, I feel that the repressive holocaust denial laws of today's Germany are frighteningly reminiscent of the anti free speech laws that existed in Nazi Germany less than a century ago.

 

It does not make you one, you

Nice try in rewriting history, but you do not get any points for it. Mind you, those folks from WWI and WWII, were my father, mother, uncles and grandparents and they are just shaking their heads

I agree with holocaust denial laws and the hate speech laws, especially today, more than ever.​

 

Precisely what amounts to hate speech, however? Exactly how it is defined in concise, specific terms, that does not allow it to be made into a catchall that applies to anything someone simply does not want to hear?

 

Unfortunately, I am reminded of how thoroughly the Western Allies had "re-educated" / brainwashed today's Germans when I read depressing comments like yours.

In embracing repressive censorship laws that imprison people for expressing "illegal thoughts", you have become much like what you claim to abhor.

 

Any speech that says you should kill people who have themselves done nothing that merits killing and with whom we are not at war. Saying we should kill all the Jews, blacks and muslims who are not ISIS seems to be something i don't see as permissible because it leaves those people with no real alternative but to kill you first. I also see it as politically illogical. If I say we should require the killing of one group what is to stop me from expanding that to others, including me? And then you are saying "Vote for me, I will kill you" (and yet I have seen many in here who cannot seem to understand why Jews in particular will not vote for and support those who want nothing more than the Jew's demise)

If I say we should kill all people of any ethnicity have I not just attempted to murder them?

 

idont like racists. they should be shut down before they have a chance to say anything at all.

 

You don't seem to recognize your own hate within that post and that's always the danger with those who want to create imaginary enemies.

 

You never saw that under McCarthy and you only heard of it under Hitler. McCarthy was in no position to censor anything.

 

You feel that will do away with racism? How about anti Americanism? Should that be allowed?

 

If leftists want too censor speech then it can apply anywhere. That shouldn't be an unexpected consequence.

 

In fact, as pointed out, the Weimar Republic did ban 'hate speech' which Hitler later used to justify the same banning treatment for criticisms of the State.

 

I was travelling in the 70's and became friends with German. He could not be more scathing of his parents generation. They have not changed at all he said, Later when I told a German on the internet about this, he said what happened was that the children of those who were involved in WW2 confronted them. Some of them eventually could accept what happened. Others were never able to. Recently a German whose father had confronted her Grandparents in this way expressed her concern that now the young were becoming blase. She believed they had not properly looked at things and this left them vulnerable to the current rise of the far right.

 

Free speech doesn't apply to businesses.

 

yes indeed sir