Mueller complained that Barr’s letter did not capture ‘context’ of Trump probe

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Donnie Jnr. “Too stupid to know what he was doing was wrong” is not a legal defence. Going after the kids was always a smarter strategy since they are not protected by the position of president and it would put Trump in the invidious situation of either protecting the kids or doing what he usually does - which is abandon anyone threatening to make him look bad - but abandoning them would also make him look bad. It would be lose/lose for Trump
     
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    LOL... "Barr released the full report with only about 6% redacted" - I mean, do you not see the complete conflict in that single sentence??

    I personally don't care about a single redaction. I'll give Barr (and by extension Mueller, since he apparently approved them) credit that the redactions are there for a purpose (or 4 purposes, as it turns out).

    It doesn't matter one bit... What is publicly available is enough to begin impeachment hearings now, should they decide to go that way, or bring indictments in 2021, should they decide to go that way instead.

    Mueller is "whining" that Barr deliberately misled the American people (twice).... what a crybaby, huh??
     
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    Whatever else you say about Nancy she is smart. She will pick her timing on impeachment and it will be when the call is loudest
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, Junior will possibly come up at some point, but since he wasn't protected from indictment and still wasn't, I think he'll survive Mueller's testimony regarding his attempted collusion.

    As if we needed Mueller to confirm Junior is not the sharpest tool in the shed.....
     
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    More to the point there was absolutely nothing stopping Mueller from recommending indictment. Legally speaking he could have recommended it; but the problem there is that he would then have to produce evidence that actually would stand up in a court of law, and his injured RINO feelings would not count towards that requirement.
     
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    There was no gloves on congress to begin with......

    What’s happening now is that congress plans to re investigate the Mueller probe examining and questioning the same witnesses. Why you ask, because they want to score political points. There is no avenue for criminal prosecution so now they’ve switched to political prosecution which only plays into Russian hands.
     
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    Maybe a sitting president can't be indicted, but what about his kids, Pence, his advisors, etc? Do you think Trump obstructed justice in a bubble? If so, how?
     
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    Agreed... although I figure she won't move until Nadler has had SOMEBODY (anybody?) testify in open session about the report... It may not amount to much (or it may be a huge deal), but I believe they have to make that attempt.

    McGahn would likely be enough, IMO....
     
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    (1) Mueller's team of Democratic Party / Hillary Clinton supporters illegally leaked?
    (2) They leaked anonymously
    (3) They leaked to two sources that have been 100% adversarial to the Trump Presidency
    (4) Mueller could have charged Trump or seal indictments. He did neither.

    Are people understanding the level of Deep State depravity this really is?
     
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    If they go down the Don Jr road DOJ and Hillary Clinton will be tarnished. See above Glenn Simpson testimony to congress saying the Russian lady worked for Fusion GPS and met with Fusion GPS the day before and the day after the Trump Tower meeting.
     
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    "When Barr pressed [Mueller] whether [Mueller] thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

    So, it appears there;s no there there & the op is fake news.

    Color me surprised. :lol:
     
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    So we waited two years for this report, for Congress to do what it COULD have done at any rate? What did we spend this time for?
     
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    Mueller is correct. Those whine about him are not.
     
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    Impeach! It's political suicide for dems but I'd love to see them make complete asses of themselves trying.
    Mueller's investigation was illegal to begin with. Mueller is an Obama pawn.
     
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    ^^^ That is a fake analysis. Mueller is saying in a letter late last month that Barr's interpretation is wrong.

    And it is.
     
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    Except we weren't misled. Mueller's 'conclusions' and the facts in them, are incoherent. He made them incoherent by HIS own design. He's now crying about the political fallout of what he's done. This was always going to be a thankless job, but he made it worse on himself with his conduct throughout the investigation.

    Mueller had his chance to keep his reputation as this Washington savant who tells the truth. He failed at that the first time. Now he wants a do over, for the sake of Congress.

    That's rich, it's also devoid of justice. But at least he's being very transparent in this regard.
     
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    AN, politely, that analysis makes no sense and is confused.
     
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    1. Do you doubt Bob Mueller did a better job of investigating than ANY committee in Congress would have done? I do not.
    2. They went through the process so Mueller could apply the legal penalties to those he could, while detailing the facts for those he couldn't... seems clear enough to me...
     
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    I read a conservative article that read that if Congress had done so, then the whole obstruction thing would be moot(because Congress couldn't be obstructed by the President.) so I do feel they could've went through that capacity.

    And #2 only makes sense if we hold Mueller couldn't indict. Which is bullshit. We know he could've had it under seal.
     
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    It will be worth a bit of tarnish to bring justice to the fore

    The question still remains - if the Trump campaign staff KNEW that the Russians were meddling - why did none of them report that to the FBI?
     
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    I disagree with Mahers facts but he is right to be mad at Mueller. Mueller punted the entire thing while saying maybe maybe not. Like everyone Republicans and Democrats should be mad at Mueller
     
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    I generally think all politicians do this shady stuff ends justifying the means and what not but it’s a
    Valid question. My concern is would you feel the same way if Hillary was elected concerning her Ukraine ties? I have a feeling that if a democrat is elected we will get a chance to test this question.
     
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    More fake news.

    Now for the real story...
     
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    Why are we just hearing this now? Mueller does not seem quite the "profile in courage" many people thought he was.
     
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    "When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr’s memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

    Well I'm sorry Bob but the context is in your report and your job is done. It is NOT your job or the job of your prosecutors to now judge the legal actions of the President as to whether you approved of them. You did not find the evidence to support a charge of obstruction of justice. Rather than ending it there due to a lack of evidence and clearly saying so you punted. You had it verified by the AG the DAG and the Office of Legal Counsel. No obstruction of justice. End of story history will write itself based on the facts.
     

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