BREAKING NEWS: disgruntled employee just killed eleven (11) co-workers in Virginia Beach

I have from the beginning. You can't shoot someone with a gun that isn't there.

It won't be immediately effective and it won't be entirely effective. No law ever passed has ever been either but we have to stop spending billions to enable madmen to kill our children and ourselves

 

You could have specified.

 

So repeal the Second Amendment?

What billions are spent to enable madmen to kill?

 

Can you rephrase?

 

Why? It is 'bleeding olbvious.'

 

Even though the vast majority of shootings are individual ones?

 

Yee

The bilions we all spend on guns

 

Gun confiscation too?

 

Thats what some "people" do . Lol

 

You are fully aware you did not say any such thing.

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No guns in civilian hands...no civilian gets killed. Simple as that. How hard is that to comprehend?
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No guns in civilian hands...no civilian gets killed.

Why do you make statements you know are not true?

 

Why not. Radical solutions to an almost unsolvable problem.

 

Australia didn't take the guns away.

 

How well do you think that would go?

 

You mean even with the gun confiscation?

 

Nope. Aussies have legal (and, of course, illegal) access to innumerable firearms more than capable of being effectively used in a mass shooting.

 

Very true, but there was a confiscation after a change of gun law. So the environment is quite different now to what it was back then.

 

Even if such were the case, it would quickly be discovered that sound suppressors do not, in any way, assist in the undetected commission of such. Any muzzle report from the discharge of a firearm would be just as detectable, thus rendering them useless for the intended purpose.

As things are presently, just as was demonstrated at Virginia Beach, there is absolutely nothing to prevent anyone from using a legally acquired sound suppressor in the commission f a murder. The restrictions in place simply cannot and do not prevent such.

Once again. How would such actually amount to being a problem? Why would it make a difference?

 

Presenting useless and misguided suggestions that do nothing to address the underlying causes of the problem is not only doing nothing, it is worse than doing nothing.

 

At one point in the history of the united states such was the case as far as a difference in price. Such is not the case now, however. On the modern market as designs have become mainstream and produced by more manufacturers, the cost of a semi-automatic rifle is less than the cost of a bolt-action rifle.

As to the matter of wasting ammunition, that is a fault of the operator rather than the platform. If they refuse to exercise proper trigger discipline and ammunition conservation, they cannot fault the tool itself.

 

Perhaps the best place to start is determining why law enforcement did not actually follow up on credible reports on individuals who went on to commit mass shootings. Nikolas Cruz was reported to local law enforcement numerous times for animal cruelty, discharging a firearm in a location of residence, and even threatening family members with a firearm. He was never arrested. He admitted on social media he intended to commit a school shooting, he was reported to the FBI, and yet the FBI did not bother to investigate the matter.

If one goes back over the history of events leading up to numerous mass shootings, there was sufficient grounds for law enforcement agencies to be involved, and even arrest the various individuals at the time. Many of them could have been charged for blatant felonies and prosecuted, or otherwise committed for being dangers to themselves or others. And in each and every single one of these cases, absolutely no one who was in a position to do something actually did anything. It is as if no one who either noticed a problem, or who could have addressed the problem, wished to get involved for one reason or another.

If the system that is already in place if simply not going to be utilized in the manner it is intended to be used, ultimately what is the legitimate point of having it to begin with?

 

1000 is the current record?

Are you linking mass shootings to Trump? And what the hell is Remington and Mall Master?

 

I've not heard anything about DeWayne Craddock muttering about strawberry ice cream. Nor did he have machine guns. In fact, none of our mass shooters (that I can recall) had machine guns. However most of the non terrorist ones did seem to be mentally ill. And is usual in these cases, the bleating about gun control wouldn't have stopped the crimes.

As for having fewer gun laws today, I would think that's not likely, but I'm willing to listen to an argument that it's the case, if in fact there is such an argument.

 

Better than its going now.
Anything man made can be unravelled, changed or modified. That includes the 2nd amendment...anything really.

What's needed is a public uproar like the scale of anti Vietnam war. It will come. Long term maybe but it will come.

 

Craddock is the prime example of why we need to take these shooters alive. We can kill them later. very painfully and slowly, but first we HAVE to find out WHY anyone would do such a terrible thing

And no, "bleating' ABOUT gun control won't do anything but actual gun PROHIBITION would. That is coming, IMO, we are reaching a tipping point here, if you really want them to pry your guns from your cold, dead fingers you just might get your wish

 

I meant to say 100 and I mean to say 'in the future if'

Remington is a gun maker and the Mall Master is making fun of the Bush Master rifle.

Trump is big on 2nd Amendment, and I link 2A to all mass shootings