After 22 weeks, a child is viable outside the womb, to abort it is murder and should carry the penalty for such.
You didn't answer this question before. So if a pregnant woman faces a life threatening gestation after 22 weeks then you would rather she die than abort?
That is a YES. Women should go to jail for abortion after 22 weeks. Even if the pregnant woman could die from the child birth. Does that mean, you'd agree the born baby should be brought up on murder charges if the mother dies in child birth? Isn't viability at about 25% at this time in time? At 22 weeks.
Any parent worth their weight is salt would sacrifice their life for their child in a heartbeat. I will not tell you my opinion of one who would not...
Well that's a non-squitor since it doesn't matter what we do or do not "honor" for the mother. It's still a baby. How can there be compromise when you post like your #635
1. Since the Constitution guarantees certain rights for EVERY CITIZEN, then the rights of the mother certainly DO matter. Legally, a fetus is not regarded as a "baby" with human rights until it is viable--capable of sustaining life outside the womb. Until then, the rights of the mother prevail--especially during the first trimester. 2. On my computer, post #635 of this thread is a response to Mr_Truth written by Dairyair--not a post by or from me, & it said nothing I can relate to regarding this post from you.
Considering how likely a 22 week old fetus is to die or be terribly health challenged, should YOU and your buddies be held responsible for it after you "Save It" or should me and my taxes pick up the Bill? If you do happen to save it and the Mommy dies....who gets charged with her murder?
OK which Article and Section says a woman has a right to kill her baby? The numbers have shifted now must have been some deletions.
Are you willing to kill yourself if your partner/spouse dies in child birth. Or is it, you only want the females to be the dead one in the relationship? You didn't bother to answer the 2 questions I asked. Should the mother be brought up on murder charges is she aborts after 22 weeks because her life is in danger? Should the baby be brought up on murder charges is the mother dies while giving birth to said child?
No Article or Section or law gives anyone the right to kill a baby. The justices of the Supreme Court wrestled with this dilemma for a long time before coming up with the compromise ruling in Roe v Wade. But they did a remarkable job trying to address the rights of everyone concerned in any pregnancy--the mother & the fetus. Since it makes little sense to take rights away from a mother & apply them to a fetus before viability, while it couldn't live outside the womb during its first trimester anyway. So, it was the only practical thing to do, protect the rights of the mother during that first trimester. I applaud the justices burdened with that decision. I can't think of any way to make a better balanced decision than the one they did. Changing it now to give all rights to the just conceived embryo or fetus, would subject our legal system & all the women of this country to stresses beyond anything we can now imagine. It would be a living nightmare for every woman or girl. It's NOT a place we want to go as a nation or as a culture--not ever.
None. And no one is saying a woman can kill hers or anyones baby. BTW - Where's the law(s) you say exist that the left is or has approved killing the baby after it's born? By an overwhelming 2 to 1 margin, the poll in this thread, shows NO. R v W should not be overturned.
You do not mind paying thru the nose for illegal allians who pocket 35K a year each, but you mind paying to save an inocent child. Kind of shows where your ethics lie......
It is then a toss up, the life of someone who has created this situation or the life of someone who has had no choice.
FoxHastings said: ↑ It should be a CHOICE of the one facing dying...it is NOT your choice... A "child" has rights....a fetus does not. And YOU have NO right to interfere with the woman's choice.
So only women must die. That is what I thought. You said any parent worth their salt would die for their child. Don't you feel any man should die for any member of their family? If they are worthwhile male? I am neither, but you certainly show no respect for women. Stand on your soap box claiming women should die during child birth rather than abort and you run chicken poop away from taking responsibility for wanting women to die. I see you also failed, yet again, to answer to simple questions. Should a pregnant woman who aborts be brought up on murder charges? A woman who dies in child birth, should the new born be brought up on murder charges? Simple yes or no question and answer. Are you afraid to answer?
Row V. Wade should not be overturned because there is a time to kill. We should keep abortion legal and let mothers choose the slain. After all, moms know. If not for Row V. Wade, there would now be among us, just here in the US, another thirty some million people all raised by mothers who would have just as soon killed them had it been legal. So, again I submit that, mothers are probably killing the right people when they abort them. Do you really think that you know better who should be killed than their very own mothers? Do you really think that mothers would kill the wrong people? There is a time to kill. Keep abortion legal. Let mothers choose the slain. After all, moms know.
I stand with the 70% of Americans who believe Roe v Wade should NOT be overturned, but should become an established part of the law of the land.