Will Putin Support Trump Again in 2020?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    As we know, the FBI, NSA, CIA, Republican-run Senate Special Committee on Intelligence, and the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel's report all have concluded that Russia covertly conspired to elect Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

    Just how decisive Putin's impact was can never be determined, of course, nor exactly how satisfied Putin is with the results of his caper.

    Since the collapse of the USSR, the KGB thug's subverting the electoral processes of democratic nations has largely replaced massive military threat as Russia's foreign policy. Subversion on the cheap.

    Trump, for whom it is all about Trump, is refusing to defend the United States against the foreign foe.

    It is Trump's aggressive impotence against the threat that is causing the current National Security Advisor to give up on Trumpery.
    Trump's big bum kisser in the Senate is aiding and abetting Trump's flaccidity in the nation's defense.

    McConnell blocks two election security bills
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/454742-mcconnell-blocks-two-election-security-bills
    The reality is that there is no way of knowing whether Trump is still seen as the best option for Putin to serve Russia's agenda.

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    :roflol: Not if the DNC nominates the right demo-commie. :roflol:
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump bum kissers want Putin to support Trump again, and he well might if he believes Trump's installment has furthered Putin's agenda and will continue to do so.

    If Trumpers needs to fantasize that most Americans and most folks in advanced democracies must be "communists" for being disgusted with their racist p•ssy grabber, that is what they will tell one another.

    Certainly, Trump's alienating traditional allies is weakening the western, democratic alliance that has long thwarted Soviet ambition, and the internal divisiveness Fake Don has provoked clearly weakens the US.

    Putin may well stick with him.

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    Fortunately Putin doesn't get to vote, or make political monetary donations afaik.

    Putin may support the idea of common Russians to use Facebook to destabilize the USA, but the Communists have been doing this in one way or another for close to a century, primarily in US universities.
     
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    So get the Democrats to run a candidate that doesn't hate America and the constitution andcwe will vote for them..

    Until then Russia picking our leader is better than Democrats picking our leader.
     
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    Tell us again what it was exactly that Putin did that was so effective in '16?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You describe Trump. The Democratic Party has no intention of nominating Trump.
     
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    Not only will Putin support Dirty Donnie, he might even kick in a few bucks to his retirement plan(maybe there will be a DD tower in Moscow after all).
    Putin got a terrific return on his investment this last time round from DD and his trumpettes. Why would he stop ?
     
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    What damage was done? What was the major thing the Russians did that actually changed the outcome of the election? Was their any measurable damage?
     
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    Putin may possibly be richer than Trump. Neither worries about retirement I'm quite sure.
     
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    Putin seems to have a sense of humor which explains why he can't be an American Liberal.
     
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    Or will Putin feed negative information on him to his opponent like he did for Hillary.
     
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    I would imagine it'll depend on whether Trumps opponent advocates for things like military responses to 'cyber attacks' or not.

    'Cyber attacks' of course being incredibly easy to false flag a frame up.
     
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    What could he possibly add to the DNC narrative? What was the effective negative information he spread about Hillary? She was already in a love her or hate her situation with Americans. These BS blanket statements really tell us nothing. Russia has always spread propaganda and so has the US.
     
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    Will Putin Support Trump Again in 2020?

    He already is.
     
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    He is neither, although his schadenfreude at America's expense is definitely perverse.
     
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    Putin's alacrity in complying with his anointed one's mewling that he should help Fake Don by releasing those illegally-obtained emails was a hoot.
     
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    Putin's preference is that there are unprincipled, self-serving politicians who will deny his confirmed attacks upon electoral processes in all western democracies.
     
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    I hear that the 2020 focus may be more on attacking the integrity and perceived integrity of our elections than on supporting one candidate or another. If they can actually get into our voting systems and change vote tallies, that could be devastating to national morale and really stir up unrest. I would also expect to see a lot more fake news about that, specifically about illegal aliens voting for Democrats, but that's pretty much a given these days.
     
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    He has cost America absolutely nothing on the political scene. There is no evidence that Russians hacked into our voting system or changed a single vote in any way. There are wildly stated accusations of a horrible election turned upside down but that election was decided based on anger at the government and a failed campaign by the loser. Pretty much as they all are. The Russians were just being Russians and we do the same to them and have little effect on their elections either. To witness....Putin is still their President.
     
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    Erroneous conclusions.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...paganda-may-really-have-helped-trump-n1025306
     
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    The FBI, NSA, CIA, Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel all agree,

    "... Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov...ndings-2017-intelligence-community-assessment

    If Putin decides Trump has outlived his usefulness to Russia, he will not support him again.

    It's that simple.
     
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    And thats demonstrably different than us how? We're the heavy wieght champions of foreign election meddling and regime change. Many of the folks we've put in power are worse than Putin and even worse than the lefts most vile misperceptions of Trump.
     
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    So, then we should roll over when Russia does it to us?

    Uh, no.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you believe the US should unconditionally surrender to attacks upon its democratic processes by hostile foreign powers, that is your right.

    Patriotic Americans like National Security Adviser Dan Coats differ.
     

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